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Murray for No. 2?

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Hi guys,
given the fact that Federer's game has gone to pieces and Murray will go further than him in yet another tournament (not to mention their head-to-head record, doesn't Murray own Federer?), how long will it be until Murray has enough ranking points to overtake Federer let alone Djokovic?

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comment by Graham (U1644783)

posted Apr 17, 2009

Heyesey (U1624687): from last night.

Don't be rude. I wonder what age you are - chance are I was avidly following tennis before you were even born so don't presume to tell me that I don't know what i'm talking about.

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comment by Ian B (U3864728)

posted Apr 17, 2009

As was discussed in a thread last week, both Federer and Djoko will be doing well to match up to their clay court points of last season (and Feds start doesn't bode well), whereas Andy just needs to show his expected level of improvement (together with benefitting from easier draws courtesy of his high ranking) to probably double or more his points. This puts him ahead of Djoko and closing on Federer.

Again, on grass, Andy has relatively little to lose and a decent haul of points to gain - with his recent form any less than a semi at Wimby would be a bit disappointing.
Federer needs to get his form back or he could slide alarmingly with dropped points for finals at RG and Wimby.

Djoko on grass isn't defending many points (2nd round Wimby?), so could close up on Andy at this point.

There's a pretty good chance that by the end of the grass season the rankings will be
1 Nadal
2 Murray
3 Djoko
4 Fed.

OK, Andy has largely to defend points through the US hardcourt run, but he gets some free points in July when his penalty 0 score from Indy is removed. Anyone know what tournament and how many points will go on then?

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comment by Heyesey (U1624687)

posted Apr 17, 2009

"Heyesey (U1624687): from last night.

Don't be rude. I wonder what age you are - chance are I was avidly following tennis before you were even born so don't presume to tell me that I don't know what i'm talking about."

What choice do I have when you not only post utter nonsense, but make it quite clear that you think you're being logical and intelligent by doing so?

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posted Apr 17, 2009

I think it's a bit previous to talk of AM's improvement on clay. A bye followed by matches against the world number 35 and world number 108 are not really conclusive evidence. Let's see how he does against Davydenko later today.

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posted Apr 17, 2009

He could be No.3 quicker than we think, as Nole is in a 3rd set battle with Verdasco who's suddenley decided he wants a slice of the Top 5 action!!

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comment by Mikeman (U8079076)

posted Apr 17, 2009

Yeah, Im watching it on bet365 website.
Hes playing well though.

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posted Apr 17, 2009

Comfortable in the end for Djoko though.

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posted Apr 17, 2009

What's the odds on Federer being No.4 at the end of Wimbledon??!!!

Not as daft as it sounds, if Nole continues his refound form

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posted Apr 17, 2009

Despite what people say, federer on his day is the best we've seen for generations. He is on a low at the moment, murray is on a high.Even if murray does go to number two it will only be until federer finds his feet again, which won't be long! (and murray will have a dip just like everyone else)

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posted Apr 17, 2009

steve_percy

During the last 15 months or so, Federer has won just THREE out of 14 games against his 3 rivals

It's the worst record of any of the 4

It's a fantastically long 'low moment' and as his proportion of wins, against the 3 gets less and less most people think it will be "long" before he finds "his feet again"

Federer, was a great Champion and probably the best player of all time. However, one of the reasons he was made so great was that, during 2003-6, he had a poor set of rivals. A fact he more or less admits himself

This is bourne by the fact that Andy Roddick, a shaky World No. 6 at the moment (Verdasco is likely to take over) is a better player now than he was in 2004 when he was No.2

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