posted Jun 12, 2009

in terms of createing your own luck

in individual sports totally- golf or snooker etc.

but not football.

in terms of a team battering a team that has parked a bus behind the gial line etc, and score by 3 deflections- then yes0 you have created your own luck.

when it is down to a ref judging instances how he sees it- NO YOU DO NOT CREATE YOUR OWN LUCK END OF story- never heard so much rubbish in all my life.

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posted Jun 12, 2009

im bored, lets all laugh at the "best right foot in the world".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROvCTscV__s

oh, as if the portugual and france ones wernt enough, its so SATISFYING to see another "becks class of 2004" penalty kick. He should bring them all out on DVD, would be the comedy seller of the year.

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Ok your bored with this

is that why EVERY article you've ever written is about Beckham - nearly every comment you've ever posted is about Beckham - you not bored your obessed

And i kind find a youtube of Beckham scoring from the halfway line among other great goals - it wouldnt prove anything just like yours doenst mean anything

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posted Jun 12, 2009

There is a lot of luck and the best team doesnt always win. Did Greece deserve to win the Euro? Didn't Holland deserve to win the World Cup in 74 and/or 78?

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A team with better overrall quality can be beaten by a team using better or more suitable tactics - in a nutshell that is how Greece won Euro 2004. They weren't lucky as such, they just played spoiling tactics incredibly well and managed to take literally all of their chances.

It wasn't as though the referee was giving them dodgy decisions or their opponents suffered spates of injuries; Greece were just solid and their opponents had a series of off-days. I suppose that's lucky in a sense, but it's more good tactics tinged with luck in my opinion.

It's very hard for an inferior team to win PURELY based on luck, they need a good gameplan too, and that is what England lacked for me.

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posted Jun 12, 2009

youre picking out ONE infamous mess up with those players finnaloid- none of them quite match the THREE consequetive penalty bottlers that your "becks" proved he had such a talent to hand us does it now?

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posted Jun 12, 2009

Bit sad 5T
Did you also llaugh at Terry when he slipped taking that penalty last year? It happens.
And before you mention the one against Portugal, Beckham was the first to take a penalty in the shoot out and once the dodgy penalty spot was discovered every single other kick was taken to one side of the spot so the kicker didnt suffer the same problem.
If there are any genuine bad penalty kicks then I would be happy to acknowledge them.

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posted Jun 12, 2009

i do agree we could have played better- but i believe we have conditioned ourselves into believeing we wernt good enough to win any of these cups,(when stast will tell you , the fact we only go out by pen shoot outs, all it takes is a filp off the coin a couple of times and we have won something) coz it makes us feel not cheated.

i think is a middle ground to be honest

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posted Jun 12, 2009

when it is down to a ref judging instances how he sees it- NO YOU DO NOT CREATE YOUR OWN LUCK END OF story- never heard so much rubbish in all my life.

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Let me draw you a picture:

The more a team forces the referee to make decisions (penalties, lbw's etc) the more chance there is of the referee getting one of them wrong.

Better teams get into better attacking positions, force the defending team to make more last ditch tackles and as such will statistically win more incorrect decisions from referees.

This is incredibly simple stuff, and has been accepted as near fact for many years, with the examples of Man United and Australia being the two most often-cited examples.

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posted Jun 12, 2009

And before you mention the one against Portugal

How about the one against France in the same tournament? Or the poor one down the middle that he got away with V Argentina in 2002?

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posted Jun 12, 2009

fillery
As I said, show me a bad one and I will acknowledge it.
A lot of people say great save by Bathez, but it was not a good kick - well hit with pace but at a saveable height. Still took a good save to get to it though.
And yes, the one v Argentina was lucky

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posted Jun 12, 2009

Those penalty foul-ups represented everything Beckham had turned himself into by that point. 2004 should finally have been his delivery year but he was nothing less than a complete clown.

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