posted Feb 5, 2009

The media and the players probably was laughing at Fed's tears. How is he going to muster respect now. Rafa is playing mind games with Fed and it is working. How can Fed overcome his most devestating loss?

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posted Feb 5, 2009

comment by donsteve (U13814452)
posted 12 Hours Ago

Comparison between Nadal and Federer as to who is GOAT is premature in my opinion considering that Federer is 5yrs Nandal's senior and is basically at the twilight of his career. It still remains to be seen how Nadal'S career unfolds in the next 5 to 6yrs.
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I think nobody is discussing if Nadal is GOAT, obviously he's not and IMO is unlikely he becomes GOAT (having said that, we could say he's GOAT at the age of 22, Borg being his only competitor for that). I would prefer that discussion only takes place if Rafa ever reaches 12-13 GSs or 4-5 Davis Cups, I'd find terribly annoying if we spent the next years only counting and calculating and were not really relaxed to enjoy great finals. The current discussion is whether Federer can still be GOAT. Many people here have already given many reasons why he can't become GOAT anymore, even if he won 3-4 more GSs. He has lost already so many things and partially in a very embarrasing way, being outclassed several times, also terribly thrashed at a GS final, one of his main strokes, the BH, being exposed again and again, Davis Cup failure, embarrassing h2h to Nadal, negative h2h to Hrbaty, Murray, 8 defeats vs. fatty Nalbandian... Sorry, but can be GOAT the player remembered for a lot of crying after big defeates (Wimbledon and Aussie Open)? Number of GSs are not so significant, Sampras was not pushing to a particular record of GS titles, so it would be unfair if one player pushing very hard for years for winning only one more than Pete could be considered better than him. Federer would have become GOAT if Nadal had decided to become a football player instead of tennis pro, but unfortunatelly for him, he didn't. 1-2 years ago it was difficult to believe Roger would not become GOAT, but the times where the likes of Ferrero, Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Kafelnikov managed to be number 1 (Federer's times) are over. Federer was only lucky to come after Sampras and before Nadal's peak, not having any serious opposition for 5 years, unlike Sampras, Nadal, Borg, McEnroe and all the greatest from the 80's and 90's. Now it's time for him to cry

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posted Feb 5, 2009

I think you are pushing a bit. Hbrty? This is a joke. Fed only lost tight matches v him and one I remember was when he had just won the Toronto open and like when he lost v Murray the first time, wanted to get away from Cincy and lost in the 1st round to prepare for the USO. The bottom line is they were tight matches. Versus Murray, he has also demoed that when he mattered (USO Final), Fed was simply in a different league!

Nadal wins a lot of the tight macthes but when the opponent is on form, he simply gets a tennis lesson from many players. Fed has done pretty well versus this lazy genius that is Nalby, unlike Nadal actually.

Nalby twice gave Nadal a tennis lesson, even on Nadal's home soil. Tsonga simply outclassed Nadal last year at the AO (watch on Youtube, it's almost hilarious) and I am sure he will again. Nadal is a great fighter but his tennis is certainly not the best out there. I am confident Murray, Djoko will end up having +++ H2H against him.

I must say that even if Nadal won the AO, I am not convinced he will carry on winning everything. He won;t get away with Simon and Verdasco all the time.

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posted Feb 5, 2009

i agree with robertcaister - there is no need to get nasty about the so called fed/rafa rivalry. for example, i am a big fed fan, and prefer the way he plays, but it doesn't mean i don't rate nadal - of course i do!

i wonder if fed could really do with a coach here. although you could say there is not much anyone can teach him, i think it could help to have an outside view, and to get some psychological perspective.

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posted Feb 5, 2009

Kaseyer "Rafa is just a coward to me. " you are a jealous person.
Tony coaching him while he is playing? REALLY? Are we missing that. Is Rafa coming over saying, "uncle what should I do now."

Again for a person who calls Fed a god then there is something wrong with you. What type of God doesnt win the FO!! What type of god wins that many GS vs players most people cant remember their names?
At age 22 Rafa has got 6 GS while at that age Fed only had ONE!! HOnestly your god is shaking cause a new GOD name rafa may surpass Sampras 14 GS.
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posted Feb 5, 2009

Roger Federer is the greatest player in the history of tennis. Simple, he may have a poor head to head record against Nadal, but NOBODY has dominated the men's game like he has, unless another person is capable of winning 3 grandslams a year 3 times (2004,2006,2007)and hold the record for the most number of weeks at number one, all this head to head rubbish doesn't matter, what counts is the consistency and dominance which NOBODY, i repeat NOBODY in men's tennis has been able to match Federer in.He may be past his peak now but only a fool will really bet against him breaking the Slam record aswell.Nadal is a great player and is capable of entering he discussion of the greats of tennis for now, Roger is still the greatest.

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posted Feb 5, 2009

The only way back for Federer now is the French Open. If he can, not only win it, but destroy Nadal in the process (which looks unlikely at this moment in time) then he will cement his place as the World's best again. If he can just get over his mental obstacle of Nadal then he has enough in the armoury to undo the Spaniard. There is a difference between the two: Nadal looks like he is playing 100% to his ability but Federer still, at times, looks to be strolling. The growth is there...will he water the seed?

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posted Feb 5, 2009

I don't this so. Things move very quickly in this sport. Whoever is going to win the next GS or Wimbledon will the new great thing. Whoever it is. Remember, 10 days Murray was the new Nadal, the favourite, the unbeatable. Nadal is certainly favourite for the FO but I don;t think he ll be able to pull Wimbledon again. I might be wrong but I expect a tougher competition. It could be Djoko, Murray, Tsonga, JMDP, etc... One is as good as hisnext tournament. That's how it works.

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posted Feb 7, 2009

Rafa needs Roger way more Roger needs Rafa. The only purpose of Nadal's presence on tour is to provide tension as to whether or not Federer will break the Sampras record. Without Federer and the fascination over the potential breaking of that record, Nadal would be nothing. It makes for a good story and is good drama value.
Why the hell does Federer need him? He is the only reason that Federer won't break the Sampras record now, that is a pretty strange definition of "need" you have there.

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posted Feb 8, 2009

What about the imense interest around Nadal at the moment to see if he can win all 4 in one year or all 4 full stop? And the fact he might one day win more Slams than Federer.
But nice try anyway at pretending he doesn't exsist .

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