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Steffon Armitage

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by stupid_tuesday (U7526156) 26 January 2009
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Is it just me that thinks it is fate, i feel somebody out there must want Armitage to play at 7 for England. Firstly Tom Rees out with a knee injury, then as soon as Lewis Moody is called up ahead of Armitage and he gets injured, then recently Lipman gets concussed. To be honest MJ just needs to listen to the heavens and call up Steffon.
You never know his call up may pay dividends.

Your Thoughts??

Also Chris Robshaw what the hell does he have to do to get in the england squad???

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comment by Neil (U9701706)

posted Jan 27, 2009

What was the point in calling him just to release him again?

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posted Jan 27, 2009

gentlemanRicardo. Please could you explain to me exactly how Julian White's scrummaging is illegal as I simply can't see how it is?0

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posted Jan 27, 2009

re mikeyphil1 (U13001949)
to describe Lipman as:
"A real tough competitor with good hands."
is absolutely spot on in the first assessment, however i see him most weeks, if his hands have fallen off no one wouldve noticed, the guy doesnt pass the ball. Great player though if injury free merits a place in the fringes of the squad.
Also to speculate that armitage would find it hard to adjust to the pace, is difficult to believe. Irish play perhaps the most expansive end to end game in the premiership, in addition armitage is one of the quickest 7's out there!!
Complete agree with bigschnoz comment regarding the inclusion of tindall over jordan turner hall, the squad is yound and experienced guys necessary, but j t-h, has been outstanding both domestically and in the hinekin cup, surely now is the time to find a world class centre combination, perhaps tait and turner hall, little and large?

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comment by Thunor (U10890672)

posted Jan 27, 2009

Wrong Armitage JB. It's Delon that's gone back. Only had half a game in the last 6 weeks. Same for Kennady

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posted Jan 27, 2009

It's interesting how D. Armitage looks like getting a game despite being so far down the pecking order. Exactly the same as his brother S. Armitage just before the autumn internationals. Pleased to have the chance of both in the line up

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posted Jan 28, 2009

mveglio - interesting thoughts about London Irish's mobile game.
However, I wonder whether it isn't a bit different in a Test match.
Players talk about the higher intensity, and in particular having less time and space.
Also, competition for the ball is significantly more aggressive.
Not saying Armitage doesn't have the raw material, just that adapting to the point where a player is comfortable and in control can take a lot of Tests.
Juan Smith has been one of the star flankers in world rugby the last two years, but who remembers him when he played in the 2003 World Cup? It takes time, and thats something England don't really have this season.
After five years of nothing, they need to start living up to the hype and winning something!

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comment by Thunor (U10890672)

posted Jan 28, 2009

Well he's got to start sometime (if ever) and I'd rather he get's a chance now and be at his best at 28 rather than in another few years and be ready to retire in a few years

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posted Jan 28, 2009

Another blinder from MP

With first choices Rees and Moody out through injury Lipman knocked out cold at the weekend and awaiting assessment from the medical team Armitage moves up as 4th choice from the Saxons and Skinner takes his place in the Saxons.

What on earth could MJ do otherwise given the injury list. Losing Moody was a big blow to England's chances this 6Ns. However perhaps playing Armitage against Italy will be a good test, and his brother was 4th choice in similar circumstances in the AIs and he played well against the best in the world.

The situation is far from perfect but might turn out better than expected.

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posted Jan 28, 2009

REalist - my understanding is that Lipman will be fit for England duty - unless he's serving the three-week break due to concussion.
Fact is, Lipman is first choice and captain for Bath, who are currently riding high in the domestic league.
He has shown good form for England when he has been allowed to stay on the pitch, and in my opinion has the potential to become a top class international number 7.
Its not as though he is outdone on form by Armitage, and he has more experience.
I would have thought the obvious choice at 7, now Moody and Rees are out, is certain to be Lipman.
Armitage is showing raw potential in the Premier League, but he is not playing in the Heineken Cup, and the stand out English qualified back row in the country currently is at Harlequins - Skinner, Robshaw, Easter and Guest.

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posted Jan 28, 2009

Lipman has not been cleared to my knowledge yet. If he is fit of course he will play ahead of Armitage but he's a long way second best IMO. If MJ goes for a 5/2 split on the bench, which he has been doing, then Armitage could get his chance. I hope he does.

Harlequins BR have been playing well, Easter will be in the team, the rest are untested at international level just like armitage, Thought you were againt playing untested players....make your mind up

NEVER a post from you without a rant against England...WHY ?

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