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Matthew Hayden quits cricket. IT's over. Australian opening batsman Matthew Hayden has decided to draw the curtain on his outstanding international cricket career.Only one flat track bully left now. www.news.com.au/couriermail/...
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posted Jan 14, 2009
Jim.Shame on you.Boycott averaged 49.96 which in my book is as near to 50 as makes no difference, he also averaged 45 in Australia. His partner John Edrich averaged 43 in England against Australia. I dont have time to go deeper but simply but averages can be manipulated to suit. also low scores at the start of a career can fudge a final average.
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Lack of understanding about Boycott. Opening batsmen have a job to do to blunt the oppositions bowlers , thus allowing the later batsmen more freedom to score heavily. Boycott did a great Job. Maybe you are saying that Hayden achieved more because of Englands superior bowling?
posted Jan 15, 2009
tobee123 - I think you'll find the opening line of my last post says this is a 'two-way street'. Australian 606ers touchiness in responding to my arguments against including Hayden amongst the all-time greats only goes to reinforce my point that they're not quite so good at taking it as they are at dishing it out.
RedRose – perhaps you should revisit some of your antagonistic postings that instigated those responses and take them into a context which others may view them. The fact some of your fellow countrymen have made a point of rubbishing your claims is fairly telling.
Yeah, all two of them! And look at all those who backed me up! Probably best to agree to differ on this - life's too short!
And they were from such intelligent posts, too! See you when the Tests begin.
posted Jan 19, 2009
How you conduct yourself and what people think about you does matter as well - look at Schumacher - the most grandprix wins, the most world championships but when he retired there was a rounding chorus of yes but he wasn't as good as Senna or Prost from the pundits and fans - people remember characters and ambassadors - most records, even if you have one, usually go pretty quickly - The Don will always be remembered for an incredible average but also because he behaved like a gent and was globally respected
<<The Don will always be remembered for an incredible average but also because he behaved like a gent and was globally respected>>Which goes to show how much you know about cricket. Bradman wasn't even respected in Australia. The team schismed over his treatment of Clarry Grimmett and Don Tallon pretty much refused to play under him. He was considered arrogant and single minded.Ian Chappell and many 70s players didn't like him either.
posted Jan 22, 2009
The Don was a private man. He would not have reached the heights that he did, if he was not dedicated and single minded. As a Pom I class Don as one of us, that is a member of the cricket fraternity.
posted Feb 3, 2009
Correct - he may not hve been liked in Australia but he was respected in England
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