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Dark side of the Roon

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by newmediaman (U7798744) 12 January 2009
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Spurs fan in peace!

I was watching the Man Utd vs Chelsea game yesterday (very enjoyable game and Utd did look a class above Chelsea in the 2nd half) and found myself becoming more and more frustrated by Rooney’s lack of respect to the match officials, not for the first time.

I’m a big Rooney fan. I think his work ethic is exceptional, his off the ball movement superb and his range of passing is one of the best in the game. But I think his behaviour towards the match officials should have got him sent off yesterday.

The two incidences that really came to my attention were-

• Boswinga muscles Rooney off the ball, Rooney kicks out (possibly worth a yellow), ref gives the free kick. That should have been job done, Rooney had made a foul and should have been booked but didn’t because it was his first bad challenge and it was an important game, so the ref used a bit of common sense. Rooney then launched into a foul mouth tirade towards the ref, turned his back on the ref, walked away, and then would not make eye contact with the ref when he was talking to Rooney. Rooney’s parting words to the ref after this altercation were 'the f word' followed by off. If that is not worthy of a yellow card I don’t know what is.

• Rooney forgets to let the linesman/ref know that he is trying a cheeky corner, Man Utd score; ref blows up because he thinks the corner has not been taken properly. Rooney runs 20 meters to scream in the linesman’s face, with every other word being a profanity. That has got to be a yellow card. Job done.

I do not want to see Roney sent off at all, but I’m confused why he gets away with it time and time again. If I did that in Saturday football I would be booked. Is it because Rooney is an England international? Is it because of the Fergie factor? Or is it because the commentators positively reinforce his behaviour by saying ‘it’s just Rooney. He’s a passionate character. He’s plays his game on the edge.’ To me that is just not good enough.

If I ran up to one of my work colleagues (in very basic terms, the match officials and players are work colleagues) and shouted in their face because I had missed a deadline and they had pulled me up on it, I would lose my job. In very very loose terms, this is what Rooney does on a match by match basis.

I’m loathed to discuss the ‘Respect’ campaign as it really has been done to death, but this is the sort of behaviour that the Respect campaign should be stamping out. This sort of disrespect is why amateur refs are dropping like flies out of the game and the quicker we can stamp it out at the top level, the quicker it will filter down to amateur and football will become more enjoyable for players, match officials and supporters.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

I have been involved in boys football for more years than I care to remember and the behaviour of kids nowadays is a lot worse than it was years ago.
They shout and swear at the ref all the time.
I think this was one of the reasons why the "Respect" campaign was brought in because the behaviour of players towards the ref at junior level was getting worrying and refs were leaving.
Rooney is a fantastic and inspirational player and is a role model for many kids. It`s an unfortunate truth that they copy not just the best examples but also the worst.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

newmediaman (U7798744) "he commentators said yesterday 'he plays his game on the edge.' that behaviour was well over the edge i'm afraid."

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I think we all agree with you. Playing on the edge DOESN'T give him the right to kick out when Bosingwa has made a perfectly good tackle, and has shielded the ball!

It was slightly excusable when he broke onto the scene at 16-17 years old, and you could say he was just a kid, but he's old enough and should be man enough to play without all this in his game!

He should (and Ronaldo for this instance) should take a look at how Messi was kicked off the pitch recently in the Barca-Madrid game, and learn that you'd look a much better player if you could take the knocks, yet still destroy a team

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comment by Mikeman (U8079076)

posted Jan 12, 2009

Football supporters on their moral high horse about swearing and abuse.
Makes me laugh. Its a mans game, get over it, he didnt break a leg or elbow somebodys teeth out. He did nothing worse than the very people who complain, spout from the terraces at Rooney every week.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

comment by mikeman (U8079076)
posted 4 Minutes Ago

Football supporters on their moral high horse about swearing and abuse.
Makes me laugh. Its a mans game, get over it, he didnt break a leg or elbow somebodys teeth out. He did nothing worse than the very people who complain, spout from the terraces at Rooney every week.
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Fans want passion from thier players having paid "hard earned cash" to see them and should be allowed to "have their say" from the terraces.

ABUs are out in force because its Rooney ! Bet they's love to have him in thier team.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

i'm not on my 'moral high horse.' But it has got to the stage where i'm too embarrased to take my son to watch football because of the behaviour of supporters and players alike.

and the 'it's a man's game' arguement is such a cope out. if this was true, the match officials would let the players behave like ice hockey players, or football would go back to the dark days of the mid 70s where anyone with a bit of flair was kicked off the park. also part of being a man is being adult enough to deal with decisions that go against you. simple as, and Rooney has demonstrated time and again he is not able to deal with that.

i have no issue with the passion and the will to win that is shown by footballers but i think this should be kept within the confines of the rules. screaming in the face of the match officials doing their job (correctly in the case of Webb yesterday) is bang out of order.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

ABUs are out in force because its Rooney ! Bet they's love to have him in thier team.
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as previously stated, i would love to have him play for Spurs and i think he is a top class player. But that doesn't make his petulant and disrespectful behaviour any easier to swallow as a football fan.

As a neutral, supporting a team at the bottom of the league, i had no interest in the score line of yesterday's game, just wanted to see an exciting battle between two of the best teams in the world. i was pleased with the football but was disappointed by the behaviour of one of its ambassadors.

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posted Jan 12, 2009

comment by mikeman (U8079076)
posted 3 Hours Ago

Yes, he needs to try and aspire to Barrack Obama.All other footballers do.
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You missed my point - that there are plenty of positions whereby the stakes are a lot higher, and the effort and dedication involved make a football match seem irrelevant.

If people can remain polite in such situations, then so can a footballer.

Man's game, blah, blah, blah: if you measure a man by how much abuse he can scream in someone else's face then you belong in the stone age.

The fact is that Rooney has been indulged in doing this since he was 16 - it only stands to reason that he'll carry on doing it. Fast forward two years on he'll let everyone down again because he can't keep it canned. We'll probably blame some "airy-fairy" foreigner again for doing the dirty on him.

Funny how the same "airy-fairy foreigner" is now recognised as the best player in the world, while the 'proper man' Rooney has scored five goals in the league half way through the season and is knackering himself out running into everybody instead of actually fulfilling the talent everyone thought would be the best English player in 40 years.

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comment by Mikeman (U8079076)

posted Jan 12, 2009

How many people who criticise Rooneys antics have actually played the game at any level? When you are on the pitch on a sunday morning steaming into tackles or on the end of bad referee decisions you can understand where he comes from. It happens a lot yet only Rooney seems to be singled out.
Funny that. John Terry manhandles refs and doesnt get half the abuse

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posted Jan 12, 2009

i played semi-pro for 3 years, as a combative centre midfielder and i can honestly say that at no point did i square up to a match official or scream in their faces. even in cup finals or when scouts were in the crowd and i knew the ref's decision was wrong.

For three simple reasons. Firstly, i have always believed in treat people as you wish to be treated. Secondly, in all my years of playing and watching football, i have only seen the ref change his mind a hand ful of times, and never after being screamed at. Thirdly because my manager would have taken me off. And this is not a run of the mill Sunday league manager but an ex-pro, having played in the old division 2.

Poor argument i'm afraid Mikeman. I appreciate that you are backing up your player as a united fan, but i think if you looked at the situation objectivly as a fan of football, this sort of behaviour has no place in the game.

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posted Jan 14, 2009

well said newmediaman being a liverpool fan people will say im biased obviously due to recent events. however i think its ridiculous how on numerous ocasions this sort of thing can occur mainly with united and particularly rooney.

surrounding the ref constantly. shouting abuse in officials faces. it just shouldnt happen in football.

im only 16 but even i know what is right and wrong even when i play on a saturday i wouldnt dream of going to these extremes to contest a decision if i did i would be sent off why should it be any different in the premier league than it would in a semi pro league or just a plain saturday league?

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