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Attitude is the problem

Premier League Arsenal
by Rocky (U11304500) 15 December 2008
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I am reading alot of people defending the Arsenal team and saying anyone who moans about them are glory hunting teenagers. This is absolute balderdash. Alot of you know my issue with this side and its not ability or potential.

It is pure motivation and effort which is the problem. I've never seen an Arsenal team for over 20 years with such a poor work rate, tracking back and closing down. I see Pat Rice shouting at them week in and week out to close down and get back in position. Pat should know having been part of a great team himself.

Lesser players have achieved great things with Arsenal, which is one of the most famous clubs in England, and many players would give their right leg to play for this club. They did'nt have great technique, or potential! but played with their heart every minute whilst they were on the pitch.

If you can tell me that Denilson, Bendtner and Gallas are giving everything they have and trying their very best then I will shut up. But I don't see that and nor do others. I see in Aston Villa an average team with a few good players working extremely hard together and motivated to get results, who are now challenging the big boys. If we put as much effort in as them their is no doubt in my mind that we coudl be top of the league at the moment.

Attitude is a players greates asset, potential/ability is often wasted.

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posted Dec 16, 2008

i was watching youtube last night of arsenal vs man u and what a team of wimps we have now there are no more fighters in this current team compared to invincibles.we dont have a team of fighters who stand up for themselves or their teamates.its so sad to watch and i think thtas what billy gallas was talking about.unfortunately he was right.the really scary scenarios for this current squad,unless wenger does something(which he wont)is at that end of the season all the players with ambitions of winning silverware will leave.case in point hleb,flamini,gilberto and henry.all thats goin to be left are players like bendtner,diaby and such.gooners you've been warned!!! i think we need some old heads in defence(metzelder)comes to mind and a DF and one good winger not prone to injuries.by the way this is my first time on the 606.please be gentle!!

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posted Dec 16, 2008

Everyone is missing the point. The problem is with the club is Wenger and/or the board. It seems the club's priority is not yet to win silverware, it appears they are contented with making money off sale of players. The current players have given all they have to give. They are young and ordinarily should be doing what is expected of them now in about 2-3years time. Players like Fabregas are able to cope simply because they are expectional. When you drive a young lad hard for performance, he will only do well for a while and breakdown after. What Arsene needs to do is to have injection of about 5 experienced players in the team, keep the young players so that they can learn from the experienced player. Remember how long it took for Flamini to fully mature and he was sold right after he did. A player like that would be good to have around for players like denilson to learn from. Make no mistake, all arsenal players are gifted the probelm now is just the mix, you need some injection of experience in the team

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posted Dec 17, 2008

I still see no threat to Arsenals champions league spot. Villa although a good side have had a great run, which will come to an end there is no doubt about it. Arsenal are only 8 points behind the leaders Liverpool and if Arsenal win on Sunday it will be cut to five. Hardly a great gap now is it?

We have seen Man Utd and Chelsea already lose to Arsenal this season while Arsenal are in seriously poor situation on and off the pitch, what does that say about Man Utd and Chelsea as a team?

When it eventually clicks at Arsenal and the momentum builds, and it will, there will no doubt about a champions league place.

When the belief is in the players again it will show on the pitch. There is no questioning the quality in the Arsenal squad but to still be in touch while the club is in turmoil is impressive in itself.

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posted Dec 17, 2008

This does more help than harm. Let them keep talking before the winter break.

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posted Dec 17, 2008

I agree with chrispelvis - I do reckon Rio's comments are to try and have Arsenal fired up for the big game against Liverpool .... its just a shame that it takes a Man Utd captain to fire up another team - something to be said there?

As for Arsenal's title challenge, Rio's right, they won't be in the mix after the New Year. Don't get me wrong, arsenal on their day are irresistible, and a joy to watch ... but how often are arsenal 'on their day'?

But not to disgruntle all Gunners out there, I strongly believe Liverpool will also be out of the running come May, if not March ... you can't win the league with only 2 world-class players, not in today's premiership.

When you consider that United have played all the tough away games to chelsea, l'pool, gunners, aston villa, city, spurs, everton ... you've got to fancy a strong second half of the season ...

And Chelsea .. you just have to look at the injury table - essien in particular ... I think when the cavalry return normal service will be resumed, with the formiddable two-horse race of Red and Blue.

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comment by Mr Red (U10668896)

posted Dec 17, 2008

When you consider that United have played all the tough away games to chelsea, l'pool, gunners, aston villa, city, spurs, everton ... you've got to fancy a strong second half of the season ...
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but consider this.
United may have supposedly played these harder games away but they only got 7 points from the lot.
Pool have played the same except of course Arsenal and United, but even if we lose those two games we have still won more points, 10, from these supposedly trickier games, than you.
and don't forget that from the 2 world class players we have, one of them has been out the majority of the season.

United are obviously rattled and that's why they are trying to play mind games in December.

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posted Dec 17, 2008

The problem with Arsenal is there are no leaders on the pitch, hopefully Cesc will grow into the roll. Wenger was lucky when he came to Arsenal he didn't just inherit a great back four he inherited four leaders who's enthusiasm and inspiration gave confidence to the rest of the side. Wenger is great at finding and nuturing young talent but he seems to have forgotten that he needs leadership on the pitch.

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posted Dec 17, 2008

Now that Evra has been found guillty as a thug and a liar and Mike Phelan also a liar, isn't it time that United officials publicly apologised to Chelsea not only for assault and lying in a manner which could've cost an innocent man his job! United players behaviour has to be reviewed for what it was on that day, rude, ignorant and showed themselves to be sore losers.Gary Neville and Ferdinand in particular, these mature players set the tone for other squad members. United didn't appeal because they know they were totally out of order. I am personally sick of looking at Ferdinand and his girlfriends whinging every time a decision goes agaist them, Imagine if Terry did the same when Van Persie scored offside or Lamps should've had a penalty against West Ham. These decisions see Chelsea three points worse off, but I would rather see a dignified response from our Manager and his players, the Ref's know they made these mistakes. United players just can't deal with any decision regardless of whether it's right or wrong without without behaving childishly. It's time officials stood up more often and that includes refs and linesmen.

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posted Dec 18, 2008

Basically what Arsenal need is a 'Keano' in midfield. An aggressive, assertive, competitive, gobby leader who will chase every ball, win every tackle and grab games by the scruff of the neck and demand 100% from players when they don't have the ball.
Surely thats obvious???

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