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6 steps from greatness?

International Wales
by Illume (U3255377) 30 November 2008
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By far the most improved team in the world - what does Wales have to do to be a GREAT team?

And they ARE the most improved team. Over the past 12 months their ratings (according to the IRB) has gone up by 6.86 points. They now stand at No. 5 (81.03 vs Argentina 81.56). The second most improved team is New Zealand (+3.1). The biggest decliners are England (-4.69) and Argentina (-5.86).

But thats just statistics. What's this success built on?

1. Outsanding coaches. I won't qualify or explain that statement

2. Some great talent - and lots of new talent coming through. Lee Byrne, Shaun Willimas, Martin Williams, Andy Powell, Lee halfpenny, Jamie Roberts, Gavin Henson, Stephen Jones/J Hook, Phillips/Cooper/Peel, Gethin Jenkins, Wyn-Jones, Ryan Jones.. all look like automatic Lions choices..

3. Outstanding defence. the team can absorb astonishing amounts of pressure. The tries scored against us have mainly been careless giveaways (2 of the 6), last minute panic giveaways (All Blacks and Australia), 1 when we had two players down with injury - only 1 (first try to S Africa) was due to sustained pressure.

4. A real hunger for success.

5. A huge improvement on turn-overs (both ways - winning them - and not conceding them)

But the truth is that - although we can play some outstanding rugby - we also have major weaknesses that stop us being a great side. If we could fix these 6 points - I think we'd be about the best there is:

1. FIX THE LINEOUT. We have good locks now. Lets get the best lineout coach in the world and pay them on results. £10,000 for each lineout we win (on either sides throw) - minus £10,000 for any we lose on our own throw-in. And if we haven't got a hooker who can throw in, then teach someone else. Gethin Jenkins, Martin Williams, Shaun Williams - I don't care but SOMEONE!!!

2. KILLER INSTINCT NEAR THE TRYLINE. Find the best sports psychologist there is so that - instead of panicking when we're near the line we have that cool clinical approach the SH have. Similar incentive scheme.

3. CLONE HENSON. Without him we're just not as good. The stat that we won 5 from 5 Six Nations in 2005 and 2008 when he started every match contrasts with 1 in 5 in both 2006 and 2007 when he didn't start any. He's the creative spark we're missing - and the reason we didn't beat the Boks - or beat the Ozzies by double figures. But he's injury prone. We have great back-up in so many positions - but not the No.11 position. We have to fix this. Wales' game has always been about being creative - it should not be an option to have Shanklin and Roberts alongside each other. One OR the other.

4. STOP GIVING FREE TRIES. An intercept against the Boks and Canada. That try against the Ozzies. Its all about awareness of where the oppoistion is.

5. KICK OUR POINTS. I think Stephen Jones was a revelation in the AIs. I'm a fan of Hook's, but SJ was outstanding - tough to put down, great pass, great kick, great decision-making. But oh, what was his %age against Australia? 8 points he missed.. We need another kicker - or get his head sorted for the big kicks. Neil Jenkins was the best goal kicker ever - but his method's not rubbing off..

6. FIX THE RESTART. Just an area we keep struggling in. The All Blacks seem to end up with the ball no matter who's restart it is. We don't..


Fix these 6 points - while keeping the good stuff - and life will be blissfull!! Roll on the next World Cup..

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posted Dec 1, 2008

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posted Dec 1, 2008

Greatness only comes when you own that little yellow cup for 4 years. bubbly

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posted Dec 1, 2008

"one win against the Southern hemisphere in light years and Wales are suddenly think there world beaters"

Did you read the O/P? It says in essence that we're much improved, but have a lot left to work on before we're world-beaters, because "we also have major weaknesses".

Do you disagree that we're much improved? Do you think that acknowledging we have major weaknesses is saying we're world-beaters?

So your comment is just sour and pathetic.

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posted Dec 1, 2008

"Greatness only comes when you own that little yellow cup for 4 years."

Surely a typo there mate? You really mean 8 years do you not?

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posted Dec 1, 2008

Good win over Aus. money made at the bookies. IMHO its never on the field that Wales blow themselves up it's off it. Someone writes a book, one of the blazers tries to take all the credit or a mad dispute between a good coach and the WRU seem to spoil the party. If these type of things do not occur this time Wales do indeed have the potential to be a great side.

The first test will come with the 6N as favourites and "the team to beat" pressure.

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posted Dec 1, 2008

Greatness only comes when you own that little yellow cup for 4 years.

Yip! looks like greatness has been bestowed all over you guys at the moment - Enjoy the greatness laugh

Oh! and don't forget 1966 and all that

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posted Dec 1, 2008

Didn't S Jones miss more then just 8 point?? Very frustrating however Carter was prob worse and Jones redeemed with the drop goal!!

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comment by Illume (U3255377)

posted Dec 1, 2008

"one win against the Southern hemisphere in light years and Wales are suddenly think there world beaters"

Quite right jfb - I am NOT saying that this is a great Welsh team. It could become one - but those next 6 steps will not be easy:
1. Fix the Line-out
2. Killer instinct near the try line
3. Clone Henson
4. Stop giifting free tries
5. Kick our points
6. Fix the restart

But I do believe they're possible - and I also believe that, unless we achieve them we won't become a great team. A competitive one, maybe, but that shouldn't be enough.

And to all the posters who think we're getting carried away - I don't think most Welsh fans are. We know there's a big gap vs the All Blacks - and if we're to catch up, well.. that's a BIG ask. And we also know we're only just starting to close the gap on Australia and S. Africa - we still need home advantage to be in there with a shout.

Still. More optimistic than I've been for 30 years! And believe me, no fan has suffered more than the Welsh fan for the last 30 years..

And right now its good to be Welsh. I think England's not as bad as everyone makes out - but a LOT of work to do. And with a newish squad and coaching team and few really world class players - it demands a lot of work. Scotland are steadily building strength - and they must be quietly pleased with their progress. They'll surprise a few teams in 2009 - hope Wales isn't one of them. Ireland - tough to call. The feel like they're treading water right now.

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comment by Illume (U3255377)

posted Dec 1, 2008

Honeheke - you're right - a lot of the damage happens of the pitch..

..but the biggest one seems to be injuries.. the Ospreys injury list looks close to a Welsh 1st 15!

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comment by Illume (U3255377)

posted Dec 1, 2008

Welshboy.. I think he missed 2 penalties and 1 conversion? Or did I miss one. It certainly FELT a lot more. Especially when you add in Martyn Williams' dropped pass - and that try we gifted them with a minute to go.. 20 points in all! maybe add back in a missed penalty and a missed conversion - we could have won by 18..

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