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Aussie spin stock crash!

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by slowie (U3255468) 26 November 2008
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Forget the equities crash or the stock market crash - the crash in Aussie spinners outdoes the lot.

The ankle injury to Jason Krejza means that this year alone we have lost Hogg, McGill, Casson, McGain and now Krejza (not to mention the legendary leggie that departed post ashes 07). Add to that White not coming up to scratch in India.

So you have left:

Jon Holland, VIC - 21 year old left orthodox new this year. 7 wickets this season in 3 games @ 44 each but at a strike rate over 100.

Dan Cullen, SA - Still young, one test wonder vs Bangladesh, hasnt capitalised on last seasons successes. 7 wickets in 3 games at 66 poor S/R poor economy.

Nathan Hauritz, NSW - Another one test spinner and like Krejza earned his cap in India. Also like Krejza he did well on debut, but had slid into obscurity before staging a comeback late last season. 6 wickets at 50each has earned him a national call up, revealing exactly how hard times are for selectors.

So why arent there loads of young spinners? The groundsmen havent helped at all in their surface preparation: the SCG is getting greener while the Gabba is a seamers paradise and the Oval is dead. The Wacca is not as bouncy as it used to be and Hobart is good for swing but not much else. Most teams are playing 4 seamers as Aus did in the 1st test.

Also the very thing that is Australia's great domestic strength: only 6 1st class teams fielding the cream of the crop, is also a weakness when a specialist position like keeper or spinner is being considered. This season only 3 spinners have had a chance to bowl at the highest level. How do you build spin stocks around 3 players?

A host of part-time spinners are on view, in fact Marcus North has taken more wickets at a better average thean any of the full-time spinners. Add in Voges, D Hussey, S Smith, Simpson, Symonds and White and you have more wickets taken by part timers than full time spinners.

The first full time spinner on the list of wicket-takers this season is Holland at number 28 (consider that only 24 specialist bowlers play each week @ 4 per team, and the ranking of 28th looks even worse). So 27 quicks (including part timers!) have taken more wickets than the best spinner doing the rounds. Hauritz, at the point of being called up, is 33rd on the list. The great hope X Doherty of Tassie doenst even feature in the top 50. It doesnt get much worse than this for Australian spin.

Is there light at the end of the tunnel? Well - it can only get better from here. Or maybe we will wander in the wilderness of spin bowling for a few years. After all the Windies not only wandered the same wilderness in a way not seen since Moses decided to take his tribe for a stroll but dominated the world while doing so with a battery of quicks. Now quicks we have in spades! We even got one of our worse bowlers into the England team this summer.

So maybe spin is a problem, or maybe this will be a new era of pace bowling? One thing is for certain - there will be a big question mark at no 11 for a while to come for the Aussie team.

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comment by slowie (U3255468)

posted Nov 26, 2008

"we can loan you some rugby players too.." smiley

mate I will leave the rugby offer thanks but if you could spare half a dozen young spinners that would be great. We will give them traditional spin names like Shane and Clarrie. We will feed them VB, steaks on the barbie (cows are a different kind of sacred here!) and get them singing Advance Australia Fair and the BBQ song. Job done.

In return you can have some hockey players to teach you how that game is played...

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posted Nov 26, 2008

"In return you can have some hockey players to teach you how that game is played..."

Already tried that, Charlesworth went over in a special advisory capacity some time before the Olympics. India didn't qualify.

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posted Nov 26, 2008

Brett Lee in the 2004/05 Sydney test v India took 4/205!

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posted Nov 27, 2008

Well, get Marcus bloody North in the team then! The way the batting has been going they will need some tail-end propping up sooner rather than later.

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posted Nov 27, 2008

Well, I'll be there the next four days, and you've got to feel for Beau Casson, he would be the most shattered man in Australia. Let's hope the pitch isn't a road, and we are somehow still able to take 20 wickets!

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comment by slowie (U3255468)

posted Nov 27, 2008

Marcus North should be in consideration for his batting but his bowling is strictly back-up status only.

Casson was very very unlucky not to be picked for the India tour and then he goes and injures himself... The unluckiest bloke is McGain who deserved a test cap but was injured on tour and now doesnt look likely to return.

I am seriously doubtful about the qualities of any spinner in Oz at the moment but then again England played for years with Ashley Giles and South Africa still havent found a decent spinner and both have done well regardless in that time.

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posted Nov 28, 2008

Now Hauritz is injured. laugh Are they doing this to themselves? It seems that no-one wants Warney's mantle as they know it is too heavy.

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posted Nov 28, 2008

They twist their ankles more often than heroines in Mills and Boon novels. At Hauritz's doesn't sound too serious.

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posted Nov 30, 2008

the major issue i feel is that the media and general fans, selectors, coaches (basically everyone associated with the game) is looking for the next warne, which is simply not going to happen. we need a spinner who can take 200 wickets in a career, which would a very good career in itself. i would say casson and krejza are the most likely to be this bowler (unless dan cullen can rediscover the potential he showed when he first arrived on the scene.)

you're right in that the pitches in aus dont help produce top class spinners butthats an advantage at international level because most spinners who travekl to aus struggle so the weakness isnt shown up as much.

the only places where our lack of spin will really be an issue is in the sub continent but seeing as how we wont be playing in india for 4 years (tests at least) and we dont travel to pakistan, that only leaves SL where we will probably be caught out in the near future. In most other nations we can cover only having an average spinner

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posted Nov 30, 2008

What we could do is colonize New Zealand and bring in Daniel Vettori.cheers

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