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A BBC report last season found that, on an average weekend, only about one in three starting Premier League footballers are English, so why do those squeezed out at home not try their luck abroad?

It is a question I put to former Chelsea, Tottenham and England coach Glenn Hoddle, who is trying to address the problem with his new academy in southern Spain for players who have been released at a young age by professional clubs.

"I don't think we work on technique as much as we should do," Hoddle said.

"I think it goes down to eight, nine and 10-year-olds. Frankly, I don't think players in England play with their heads up as they do abroad.

"Continental players see a picture quicker than English players and if have that and you have better technique, then you are going to have an advantage.

"At those young ages, where they are like sponges and can take things in, I don't think we coach enough, teaching them to play with your head up so they can do the next thing.

"My experience of coaching in England is that in many cases the first thought is of how tall and strong players are and whether they can get box-to-box.

"If that is the priority, the smaller players with better techniques can get left aside and that's a conundrum we find ourselves with."

But what do you think? Are English footballers simply not technically good enough to interest top European clubs, or are there other more important reasons for the seeming reluctance to travel?

Is it a language or cultural barrier, or has the money on offer in the Premier League served to kill any ambition of playing abroad?

What's the answer and is there a solution?

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posted Nov 5, 2008

also our culture is very different and many would find hard to adapt
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You kown your culture is not that diferent from the rest of Europe, don't you?

If that was the problem, the eastern european players would have much more dificulties to come to the west.

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comment by Rupert (U9260318)

posted Nov 5, 2008

I think Hoddle should be commended for this initiative he is taking.
Hoddle should be the "supremo" over-seeing football at all levels in England. And before you ask no I'm not a spurs fan but in fact an Arsenal one!

I think a lot of work needs to go into educating young English players how to behave off the pitch and to a degree on it.
Educating kids off the pitch in studies and getting them to live a healthy lifestyle will make a difference as well.

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posted Nov 5, 2008

English players don’t travel well, clearly there are a few exceptions, Lineker, Ince, Platt, but I don’t think that’s an unfair statement. Didn’t Larmpard turn down Barca? We love to criticise English players for lack of technical ability, but Stoke beat Arsenal last week... Any of the England side would be fully capable of playing for any of the big European teams; it’s just that none of them seem to have much interest in playing abroad with the premiership being so strong and with our clubs doing so well in Europe what’s the point?

I have far more of a problem with how rare it is to see English coaches working abroad; we as a nation seem terrible at producing top managers. We’ve not had a top English manager since Bobby Robson, who managed both in Holland and Spain.

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posted Nov 5, 2008

Seattle92,

Good point about the "culture differences".

We make our own barriers, our own excuses, and allow our prejudices to prevent us from moving forwards.

Look at some of the young foreigners who have come to England and adapted and settled quickly. Fabregas and VAn Persie spring to ind. Are they better educated, from a better gene pool, or just willing to be open minded and adaptable? Me thinks its the latter.

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comment by kentc81 (U8308933)

posted Nov 5, 2008

The reason is simple -

English players are a total rip off !

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posted Nov 5, 2008

The only reason English players are expensive is because they are bought by the top teams because the have proven the can play in the Premier League some way or another, foreigners are cheaper because even if they have been playing in a top league in Italy or Spain, they are not proven in the Premiership, even if they actually are better players. Mad but true.

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posted Nov 5, 2008

this may be off topic slightly..

brazilians are incredibly skillful because at a young age an underprivileged brazilian kid probably only cares about showing off in front of all his mates and learning the a trick that out does every one else's

in england however, young football has got to the point where 9, 10 and 11 year olds must WIN their matches so that daddy is proud and the club has silverware this season. This is not the way to inspire skillful football and technique at such a young age whatsoever..

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comment by Jack (U881118)

posted Nov 5, 2008

There is a big lack of British players and coaches as well working in Europe, however an increasing number are going over to play in the MLS.

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posted Nov 6, 2008

We’ve not had a top English manager since Bobby Robson, who managed both in Holland and Spain
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He also stayed in Portugal from 92 to 96, anda managed Sporting and Porto.

And guess what? Robson didn't lear portuguese. He probably just know how to say olá and obrigado

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posted Nov 6, 2008

It's purely because England is a pretty comfortable place and one of the best places to live and is where the money is so why leave? Also, they're not good enough technically clearly.

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