posted Nov 7, 2008

Giganticfootyfella said: "I could go on and on....."
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Please, don't

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posted Nov 7, 2008

iceman....

You bring so many facts to the table man, you just kill me haha

deal with the post or shadupayaface hehe

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posted Nov 7, 2008

You bring so many facts to the table man, you just kill me haha
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Would the gentleman please see my previous post

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posted Nov 7, 2008

I don't get told when I can say something iceboy so get used to it

Besides least I bring dozens of facts and opinions, you aint brought jack bro

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posted Nov 8, 2008

Jones to win by KO - look at the way Hopkins(older than Jones) took Calzaghe out in the 1st round - and I rate Jones a better and younger fighter.
Calzaghe only took that Hopkins fight on a split decision - this will tougher.

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posted Nov 8, 2008

disagree invinciblebrucelee i don't think this fight will show how things would have gone at their peaks,jones is way way by his peak by years wheras joe was probably at peak just couple of years ago.

Joe is a great fighter and i will be shocked if he does not win tonight but if they had fought each other at their peaks i would pick roy jones definitely.

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posted Nov 8, 2008

There are far too many uneducated, overemotional writers on 606. I keep on seeing posts like "so and so have NO chance at all against such and such", and "ABC will blow away XYZ in two rounds any day!", and so on. Well, has anyone actually bet their house or ten years' worth of salary (that's pocket money for many of you) on those fights?

Let us be more objective and realistic, and not be a bunch of extremists.

giganticfootyfella. While you are clearly well informed and I happen to agree with "some" parts of your comments (yes, Gerald McClellan and Nigel Benn were genuine threats to Roy Jones Jr at the time when, according to many people, RJJ ruled the world - yet it was not Roy's fault that Gerald unfortunately became wheelchair bound after that epic battle against Nigel, and that Nigel was burnt out and he also became somewhat afraid of hurting his opponents), the level of hatred which you are displaying against a person whom you probably have never encountered in person takes away all the credits from your otherwise well informed comments... Can't you see that those emotional comments and exaggerations are making you sound like just another biased fanboy? (Are you?)

Bob. Since when has the internet been the world's most trustworthy source of information? There are plenty of facts that are not on the world wide web, and there are even greater amount of false information that are there. Books, newspapers, magazines, televisions and radios have never been one hundred percent trustworthy sources of information, but www beats them all hands down (like Roy used to do!) when it comes to abundance of fabricated facts. And I am sure that there are a plenty of things which you have seen on televisions, newspapers, etc. that cannot be found on the web. "Show me a link" just shows your naiveness (or age?). Next time, do yourself a little favour and ask the others to go to British Library or Bodleian Library to dig out articles from their copyright archive.

rwgm103. I agree that Calzaghe was not hurt at all when he went down against Bernard Hopkins, but have you actually seen Byron Mitchell fight? Joe's head wasn't totally clear for a good 6-7 seconds after Mitchell got him down on canvas. He did well to recover from that and take Mitchell out in style shortly after that knockdown, but that fight could have gone horribly wrong for Joe.

MaineDAWG2008. As fifty_cuffs commented very well with his " Again..." straight after your post, it is people like you who lower the standard of these boards and turn these pages into battlefields of emotions and nationalism instead of intellectual discussions. You are on a BBC page, not a Daily Mirror webpage or some American wresting fanpage.

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posted Nov 8, 2008

Gogo good post

But to be fair my friend I was having some fun with my words as well as offering truths and salient fact behind my comments.

And for your delectation I present another one.

Roy Jones could easily have fought Gerald Mclellan pre Benn (Even I would not go so far as to suggest that Roy ducked him after this point).

I say this because they were of the same generation who fought each other in the amateurs (Gerald won by the way). I say it because they both started at 160 and becase they were both US fighters highly rated at the exact same point in time.

As I previously pointed out Benn offered Roy a title shot at 160 when he was WBO champion and Roy refused and instead went and fought for a worthless inter continental belt.

When Benn requested a fight with Roy for the 2nd time it was pre Mclellan, so the facts invalidate the post Mclellan arguments.

As for the issue of balance, I have not rated Jones- I never have based on all the aforementioned fighters he as ducked (see my post listing the names).

Have I injected some fun and hyperbole beyond my fundamental points?

Of course I have and I see nothing wrong in that as long as the meat and drink of my arguments have been correct, which they have.

We can have fun also though, boxing is also part of the entertainment's business as well you know.

Also I do not go in for the politically correct notion that each individual should be trying to play devils advocate and represent all sides of an debate including ones they don't believe in.

Trying to aim for such wishywashy sanitized middle ground may well be noble, but it is best saved for serious discourse (and even then it only has a limited place), politics this aint!

As for Jones the man?

I am sure he is lovely and I personally wish him no ill will, so keep the correct perspective and remember how this debate is framed.

As for the fight with Calzaghe I have so far said little, given that most of my ebb and flow has spun around the fighters and their respective legacys.

I see this one as Calzaghe on points due to stamina and punch output.

However if Jones wins I will have seen the first victory that I would really respect him for. As such if he achieves the feat I will have a new found admiration for having beaten the best, something he has done far to little of throughout his career thus far.

On that note;

May the best man win and respect as opposed to excuses offered to the victor.

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posted Nov 14, 2008

giganticfootyfella, Do you rate PBF? And who do you rate from the last 20 years of the boxers from the USA?

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posted Nov 14, 2008

I rated Mayweather very highly yes, but not at welterweight where he didn't fight the best of the last few years.

Mayweather was best at lightwelter for me.

A LOT of very good US boxers from the last 20 years (big time frame). A few of the amazing ones below;

Evander Holyfield
Shane Mosley
Oscar de la Hoya
Pernell Whitaker
Mike Tyson
Bernard Hopkins

I can't help but think your question is loaded and your thoughts about me waay off base..let's see though maybe not.

MOST of my favourite fighters ARE American, so don't ass-ume that backing one fighter or two and not backing or rating another couple equates to not rating US fighters as that would be adding 2 plus 2 and getting 5.

P.S

My fight prediction and reasons it would go that way were absolutely bang on the money.

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