posted Oct 27, 2008

moffett! the wru dont just get the money from fans attending wales games . the wru also get a massive ammount from sponsorship deals to.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

It makes no difference who is doing the bargaining, providing the document produced works for both parties, the reason Moffet is not liked is beacause he gets things done at all costs not bury his head in the sand like the WRU.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

pontyforever
I agree, but if there was no players there, who could they sponsor.the players are the pawns in this, so its down to the WRU to sort it out.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

Going on his recent comments, I think the regions will live to regret installing Moffett as the leader of the RRW.

His-unprofessional hostile comments are clear indication he's in there to settle some type of old score.

There are a number of people who could have taken that role and its fallen with him. Big trouble for everyone in Welsh rugby.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

Moffats Ghost,
Unfortunately the WRU under Moffat and since have managed to get themselves into a predicament amounting to MILLIONS in debt. As you're correct in saying that income is made up of largely ticket sales to internationals, this is money that doesn't all get divvied to the regions, but they don't do too bad. The regions like evry other rugby club in Wales have their affiliation to the WRU, and in doing so have agreed to abide by their bidding. The problems start when 'has been' WRU bosses like Moffat wade in and try to make a name for themselves. Wales the national side are a national treasure in the respect of winning 2 GSs in the last 4 years. The regions don't seem to want to embrace the possibilities that presents. The players are first and foremost members of clubs from grass roots up to WP (run by WRU) and then if good enough represent their regions and paid higher rates by the regions (by the regions' choice) because those regions are invited to self fund to a degree by seeking large sponsorship and taking gate monies.
With this in mind, the WRU are the governing body for rugby in Wales, and should have first call on when and how the players are made available to represent country first, region second, club third. Its how it works in Ireland with the IRFU, and yes it gets political from time to time, but we never have trouble getting players off for national camp.

Just wish our results were better, but fingers crossed.

The underlying problem is too much money involved. Same happened to the RFU, their problems are only just coming to an end, and a robust financial plan should see them right. Scotland also, big debts, poor management of players. The only way is to allow the union full control, and have an independant players union who consult only with the WRU. This is not what Moffat is doing. Centrally run rugby is the answer, the celtic nations were all good at it until big money got involved. Then little men with pound signs in their eyes get too big for their boots.
If its not sorted, Gatland will move on next year after the lions tour and Edwards will follow, probably to England.

As a supporter, your support should go country, region, then club.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

I don't think its the end of the World, England had big wrangles before getting their agreement through.

This is a proccess and we have to go through it, call it an evolution.

Remember when Moffet trimmed the clubs down from 9 to 5 people were diving through windows and jumping off cliffs, they were screaming on here and lambasting moffet.

But whats really happened, its proven to be right and moffet has been vindicated, he came up with a formula and drove it through kicking and screaming, and also remember Moffet helped set up the Magners league, again he was proven right, its turning out to be the cream of leagues in the northern hemisphere.

So Moffet could come up with a plan for the regions and Unions, whats wrong with that, he may have a brainwave to move us forward further, moffets not a bad guy, he is clever and intelligent, and he has a soft spot for Welsh Rugby.

But i am sure this is all a storm in a tea cup.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

Wow, what a triumph of blind love over reality from Moffet's Mini-me!

The man's possibly the most divisive 'personality' ever in Welsh rugby.

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posted Oct 27, 2008

"The man's possibly the most divisive 'personality' ever in Welsh rugby."

Yeh! Without him we'd have had a team in Llanelli sponsored by some millionaire from London, a team in Neath or Swansea sponsored by someone who could 'put up' the money, a team in Cardiff, sponsored by someone with more money than pies, a team in Newport - sorry Gwent - sponsored by Mr B and a team in Bridgend or Pontypridd sponsored by "Sh! you know who". Moffett made all the difference - Mr B left Newport and they're not doing as well and the team sponsored by "Sh! you know who" plays thirteen-a-side rugby. Thank the Lord for Moffet

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posted Oct 28, 2008

mickeyphill is a very small minded person. Why should comments not be made by an Englishman about the state of the Welsh game. It's no different than comments being made by a New Zealander!All your comments on these boards are snide and not within the spirit of the game about which you seem to profess so much knowledge

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posted Oct 28, 2008

Surely the regions were set up in the first place, to ensure that the International side were provided with more competetive players, not the other way round.

Hats off to Dai Young, who has shown the others the way, by intending not to select his internationals, so that they can maximise their prep to face the Boks in a red jersey, rather than a blue one against Bath.

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