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England Injury Crisis????

World Cup England
by cherrywarrior (U8931444) 16 September 2008
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Is it just me or does anyone else see the loss of Newton to the England squad not as much of a big deal as being made out?

(Before I start this is not just a dig at Bradford, Wire or any other team/player i.e. nothing too personal is intended, I am writing this as a "neutral" England fan not a Wigan fan)

Newton has an old school style of playing, and is well, just old! As much as it pains me to say it James Roby is exactly the sort of hooker we need to compete with the likes of Cameron Smith! Young and quick thinking with pace. Tony Smith probably intended to take Roby and Clark and rotate them during matches.

Me, personally, I would have taken Roby (obviously) and a solid hooker who has experience of playing against the Aussies, has done it all before, knows what to expect, and isn’t afraid to (excuse the phrase) "Bring Back the Biff".

After Newton’s recent performances, I would have gone for Higham anyway, I just don't think Clark is consistently good enough, again look at his recent Warrington performances, imagine him trying to square up to anyone, let alone the likes of Billy Slater and co!

Although it is Tony Smith as England coach, so I suppose I wouldnt be too surprised to see Diskin on the plane to Australia, and I haven’t really seen too much of him recently to comment (I suppose we shall see on Friday night).

As far as the rest of the forwards are concerned, I have no worries in that department with the great JP leading by example!

England need more than ever to put in a decent performance in this World Cup, after the farce of the 2006 Tri-Nations and all the bad press and stick the GB boys attracted down there, it could be the best chance we have in years to get our game up hear taken more seriously! So lets hope England can go and stand up to the Aussies on their own turf, and show that they can't have modern rugby league all their own way forever!

With the NRL apparently in a state that stops just short of crisis mode of the field, and one of their own greats (a certain A. Johns) saying that their game on the pitch was boring compared to European Super League, boring both to play in and boring for fans to watch, wouldn’t it be great, in the centenary year of rugby league in Australia, if they lost to a bunch of whinging Poms!

Come on England (and Ireland and Scotland)!

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posted Sep 16, 2008

Couldn't agree more BWIS. Diskin's been showing the sort of pace from dummy half that Roby has all season. He's got a real eye for catching the markers off guard, either to win a penalty or break through completely.

It'll be Diskin and Roby. No doubt about it.

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posted Sep 16, 2008

Diskin, Godwin, Higham would all fair well in the World Cup. It's a shame Mcllorum's opted for the Irish. Danny Houghton looks agood prospect but it may be too soon for him. Godwins No#1 for me. He has everything and HE wont back down to any Aussie!!!!

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posted Sep 16, 2008

Also, Ryan Hudson may find himself in the reckoning, although he's a bit hit n' miss. Anyone @ Quins?

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posted Sep 16, 2008

Higham deserves a seat on the plane to Oz,he's been awesome for the pies. (learned his trade at saints) Roby and Higham on song at 9, a match for anyone. Diskin to go also with Hudson as a wild card.

The pack are a match for anyone along with the half backs, concerns are the centre's.

Put ya dosh on England to win this one

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posted Sep 16, 2008

Newton offers better service at the play the ball. His passing game is still better than the others mentioned. Roby and Higham have pace but their passing and kicking are not at the same level as Newton. Diskin is probably the best option, as he does possess a kicking game near the line.

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comment by smitto (U10221594)

posted Sep 16, 2008

All the lads mentioned are good players, if you want some "biff" then its a pity Newtons out, he can mix it and his dummy half service is good, for me Diskin has bee consistent and Roby has got to be in, just hope these two keep healthy through the play offs.

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comment by rhino65 (U9810572)

posted Sep 16, 2008

Whikst TN is a nasty piece of work, he doesn't half get up the oppositions noses. I'd definately have him in my first choice 17.

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posted Sep 17, 2008

Roby is a reactive player, takes advantage of slow defenders and good support play and perfect of the bench to exploit tiring legs but we need a leader starting at number 9 someone how will direct the pack and set a platform for attack, thats why at saints cunningham is much more important even if roby is more exciting. Theres no way woul would stand a chance with higham and roby as hookers, too similar

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comment by Liam (U10357755)

posted Sep 17, 2008

I will be watching all the games from home but can't ehlp but think it's a bit of a wasted journey. If Great Britain can't turn over the Aussies what chance have the home nations as individual countries? The last world cup was a bit of a joke with no one seriously bwelieving that a British club could hope to win and this one is the same. Next time how about GB competing to make it more of a competition?

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posted Sep 17, 2008

because how many of the players in the Ireland, Scotland, and Wales teams would have actually made it into a GB squad, lets face it, the GB team has been disbanded to boast team numbers at the World Cup, so then its at least some sort of competition.

GB team = England team

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