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THE GREAT 606 DEBATE

by Kenwyne's jump (U9786835) 04 September 2008
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Good afternoon ALLIES and ENEMIES.

I haven't been a football supporter for too long, I got completely hooked a year ago, when for some strange reason that I'm yet to fully understand I became addicted to supporting Sunderland. However I've always been interested in debate.

At present I am somewhere between my 'armchair' and the 'stands', I can visit a good few games of my team in London's catching area, but moving up North and becoming a season ticket holder is a decision I'm yet to make, since it needs some other factors (family, job, economical reasons, etc...) taking into consideration.

Great credit to 606 however, and the quality of some of the arguments here that I realized: supporters in England and the British Isles, as it is expected from the inventors of this wonderful game, are an exceptionally knowledgeable folk, the wit of the banter is top notch, the chants and hymns people singing in stadiums are second to none, and if I compare it to other countries I lived in, football support is a much more integral part of the everyday culture here than it is in other parts of the world.

To get to the point, my question is:

AS A SUPPORTER, THEREFORE BY DEFAULT: FANATIC HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN LOYALTY (to your club or to the footballers you consider yourselves a great fan of) AND REALITY (what you see with your own eyes) WHILE DEBATING THINGS?

DO YOU:

A) - Try to win the arguments you're involved in, like your team
aims to win games, or

B) - Try to deepen your understanding by the process, and aiming
for some 'universal truth' instead of victory at all costs,
that might mean: the 'cause' (you as a supporter/fan meant
to protect and defend) will suffer?


Is it necessarily a choice between "A" and "B", or are we, football supporters and fanatics are bound to find a balance between the two?

Where did YOU find YOUR balance then?






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posted Sep 4, 2008

i personally find mass debating is a lot easier when you've got someone helping you out. I think you end up with much better results if you've got someone to bounce things off, so to speak. Obviously sometimes things don't just bounce off though, they stick. And i find its this stickyness that other mass debaters find hard to respond to in a positive manner.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

I don't know about mass debaters; you all sound like a load of to**ers to me.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

Sorry fella, I stopped taking you seriously when you mentioned Sunderland and football in the same post

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posted Sep 4, 2008

FfVillan

I think I know what you mean about having someone to 'bounce things off', that could come very handy, but the expectation of loyalty follows (e.g.: next time you're expected to return the favor). What if you don't agree with the same fela next time? I know it isn't too tactful, but I'd prefer to reserve the right to say what I think when I disagree with someone, instead of building alliances.

As dave_bluenose said: 606 is a mini version of real society where 'acceptance' is the law.

I've been there before: having mates who always there to help you out, it brought the mates' mates under the same roof as well, and ended up being a member of a numerous branch who always agreed in order to keep everyone happy. The 'small' price to pay (membership fee?) was: disagreement (on the main issues) was regarded as the equivalent of blasphemy. Especially if you happened to disagree with the most influential member of the group.

At one stage I had to ask myself: Am I here on 606 to make alliances, being obliged to be extremely tactful and restricted in what I can say? That would only result in a heap of (ok, very polite, but still) bull$h1te. Not sure I'm interested.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

comment by block_b_blue:

OMG, this isn't a debate, its a novel!! You a politician or what? You gave me a nose bleed. I bet you were one of those kids who said "why" everytime you got an answer to a question! Talk about something interesting mate!
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That's the wonder of 606 mate: you can find all sorts of articles here to find something according to your interests. ok

I guess I'm entitled to a guess too: I think you were one of those kids with red noses, screaming (I DON' WANNAGO!!!)and pulling their mum's hand back all the way long to the school. laugh

Oh well... all those scary books there isn't it? whistle

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posted Sep 5, 2008

Maybe you would get more interest if you had called it The 606 Mass Debate.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

Or, "Mass Debate on 606"

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posted Sep 5, 2008

"Maybe you would get more interest if you had called it The 606 Mass Debate."

I'm not to worried about the 'mass interest' or the lack of it ha ha.

Given the relatively abstract nature of the subject it was always meant to attract fewer people with something to add.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

It's reassuring that spitfir9_saints, jimb_england, pompey-bred, FfVillan, and dave_bluenose all made good points.

The p1$$ takers are funny and entertaining enough.

The insulting posts are just there to ignore or provide a useful example of what we are talking about.

I consider it a good return.

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