posted Aug 29, 2008

I'm not sure how it is any different to a wealthy individual purchasing a club and then making decisions regarding transfers.
People talk about Ebbsfleet being taken away from its fans. They didn't own the club before Myfc came along and had no input. Now some (although not all) are members of Myfc and do get a say. I fail to see how this is a bad thing, or makes the club a joke.

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posted Aug 29, 2008

comment by GravesendEngland (U11946416)

As for atmosphere the Abbey Stadium is worse than a morgue mate!

No, no, no. Barrow played down there a couple of weeks ago and it was anything but a morgue! Great atmosphere and as good as you'll get in this league.

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posted Aug 29, 2008

So many have commented on the 'some bloke in china', menaing the £35 folk who have little interest in the club.
(Is This chinaman like the The man on the Clapham omnibus?)

Under a more convential set-up, who is to judge exactly how the chairman/board feel?

Lots of assumptions flying around-
***myfootballclub.co.uk members don't care
***'Real' owners are lovley, life-long fans.*


*Anyone have any 'good' chairmen NOT akin to QPR,Chelski,ManCity etc?

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posted Aug 29, 2008

He's off to Bristol City. Its all well and good Ebbsfleet board saying they cannot announce it when Akinade phones the Posh manager to tell him he has chosen Bristol City over Posh.
LOL, so much for the secrecy.

Good luck to the lad, and its probably a good deal. The manager and board recommended the sale, and he could end his career next week. Take the money and build the club.

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posted Aug 30, 2008

Of course they are all now voting for akinde to be sold on the basis that we would prefer him not to play tuesday.....how unsettled must he feel knowing he is a pawn in some sort of freak show.
YellowAmberArmy

Plenty of clubs have been known to buy and sell players to stop them joining rival clubs. Also isn't it similar to a club buying a player but that player then not being allowed to play against his old club. This is just more transparent.

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posted Aug 30, 2008

The worry is, a lot of fans can talk the talk, but in actual fact, know very little about the technical side of football. Many fans don't know, understand or even care about the reasons you sell players to let them play at a different level. Many fans don't know what makes a good player and can't see a player's qualities and the benefits of leaving a club or staying where he is.

On this occasion, they've gone with the management team's views at Ebbsfleet which I'm guessing might always be the case - I would hope so anyway, because, no matter how romantic it sounds, a lot of fans ultimately don't understand football enough to make decisions about players and tactics.

I would doubt that many of the voters have even seen him play weekly and train daily.

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posted Aug 30, 2008

Billy Neal (U1759341)
posted Yesterday

Blimey - I see ignorance is not so blissful no matter where you go in football.

Ebbsfleet is owned by people who were prepared to put their money where their mouth is. Not once when they bought a share, but again when they funded a new player, and again when they renew. This is more akin to Barcelona model than MK Dons.

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Ebbsfleet isn't owned by the investors, they pay £35 to play fantasy football manager in real life, nothing more. Which, don't get me wrong, is an interesting but dangerous concept.

The big difference between Ebbsfleet and Barcelona is that fans at Barca don't vote for players and line ups. You pay a skilled manager a lot of money to make those decisions.

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posted Aug 31, 2008

At Barca they vote for a President instead ... who's manifesto is all about which players he'll bring in. The manager is paid a lot of money to pick the team from the squad that the President has put together.

So far at Ebbsfleet they have consistently voted on a team that is only a recommendation. Liam Daish as manager has the right to vary his selection. It's a move forward for fans to have a voice - but hardly a dangerous precedent in its current form.

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posted Sep 1, 2008

footy_analysis ~ "play beautifully" ~ (U4524469)

posted 2 Days Ago

The worry is, a lot of fans can talk the talk, but in actual fact, know very little about the technical side of football. Many fans don't know, understand or even care about the reasons you sell players to let them play at a different level. Many fans don't know what makes a good player and can't see a player's qualities and the benefits of leaving a club or staying where he is.

On this occasion, they've gone with the management team's views at Ebbsfleet which I'm guessing might always be the case - I would hope so anyway, because, no matter how romantic it sounds, a lot of fans ultimately don't understand football enough to make decisions about players and tactics.


One part of this venture is to find out whether fans tend to know much or not. Its a 'wisdom of crowds' test. Its hugely interesting and the 'pick the team' element undoubtedly brought a lot of extra members in meaning more in the pot for the club, but i understand if you think that's worrying. That people agreed with the manager doesnt prove much, though i'm sure many people took his opinion very seriously which will have increased the support to sell him. But no reasons were given and the MyFC site is awash with pleas to let him develop his talents at a higher level. Some of them are smart and do care, lets hope that's the majority who shine through in the future.

What i do find romantic about it is the club ownership being with fans. Unfortunately we aren't all Ebbsfleet natives, but i would hope within a few years the membership will be a higher proportion of those who have their heart in this rather than those who were bored when they read about it. That could be great for the club. Don't tell me Thaksin has a better idea than some of these folk.



"I would doubt that many of the voters have even seen him play weekly and train daily."

Unfortunately, this is one of the problems that is showing up. I doubt there will be 30,000 members in a year's time, many are inactive now. Its whether decisions will be made by 5,000 knowledgable supporters or 15,000 who rarely saw a game. Leads you to all the old arguments on democracy.

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posted Sep 2, 2008

Fleet-Girl (U13201378) - you can't possible suggest that the club was better off before the take-over or that Fleet fans had more say in how the club was run? The club was losing money and was totally reliant on loans from the previous board. Was this really sustainable?
It is true that the most active MyFC members were already Fleet fans but not all of them. Before the takeover would these fans have been able to decide on the wage budget for the season, or the choice of kits, or the appointment of the chief exec?
There are also plenty of other examples of MyFC members investing from buying merchandise to supplying new balls for training to supporting some of the charitable causes associated with the club.
Clearly the way the system works still needs to improve, and I can't stand the message boards either. I'm sure there are a lot of lessons that need to be learnt as we go along but unless you have an oil company-owning billionaire owner it is hard to see how the club was going to progress. If you want to be involved in developing the club pay your £35 and then you have as much say as anyone else.

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