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Who will win the inaugural GP at Valencia?

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Ferrari's Felipe Massa took the first pole at Valencia's street circuit for the European Grand Prix.

But after agonisingly missing out on victory last time out in Hungary with an engine failure, he'll be looking to convert pole into victory.

Massa needs a win if he is to keep up his title challenge. He is eight points behind leader Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton lines up his McLaren alongside Massa in second and will be expected to push Massa hard at the start.

Kimi Raikkkonen in the second Ferrari is on the second row in fourth alongside BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica.

The Valencia circuit is expected to deliver an exciting race because of the close proximity of the concrete barriers, the high-speed straights and range of corners.

Most drivers are expecting to see the safety car emerge at some stage to neutralise the field.

But what do you think of the new circuit and who do you think will take the first-ever victory in Valencia?

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comment by dj_mcav (U1771278)

posted Aug 24, 2008

[QUOTE]He almost took Suthill out? On a public road youd still get done for dangerous driving even if you dont actually crash[/QUOTE]

Drivers nearly run other drivers off the track all the time during overtaking (When it does happen) So by your logic, they should all be done.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

Massa has been excellent today. Deserves his win.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

[QUOTE]He almost took Suthill out? On a public road youd still get done for dangerous driving even if you dont actually crash[/QUOTE]

Drivers nearly run other drivers off the track all the time during overtaking (When it does happen) So by your logic, they should all be done.
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Rules are rules - Ferrari broke them. End of. Its not against the rules to overtake.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

Massa drove really well and deserves the win. He was clearly better than the rest of the field in this race.

That said, the organisers of F1 are a real joke. If they have not got the guts to make a decision one way or the other during the race, they should not be running this sport. It all comes down to politics. They just dont want one driver to get a big lead and make the rest of the season a non-event.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

excellent drive by massa. well done him. LH gets valuable points and must be happy enough. Good stuff from Kubica too.

About the FM pit lane incident. The FIA do set themselves up to look stoopid at best and conspiratorial at worst. While it looked like a dodgey move to me it didnt look unusual, is it just my memory or have we seen many v close encounters in pit lanes recently? wasn't KR racing in the pit lane in canada b4 he got his shunt? Having said that if they want to investigate they should make a decision according to their own rules, not make them up as they go along and delay the decision.

KR engoine blows, Fm did last time. i think Ferrari are panicking and overcooking their engines. look out for massa's engine blowing in Spa. Kimi perhaps to win, LH for 2nd again.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

As ice cool lewis says... please please tell me when someone was last penalised in f1 for being released side by side with a car in the pit lane???

It happens so so often.

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comment by ctbctb (U4819572)

posted Aug 24, 2008

The stewards decided that the release was a breach of the rules.

So does anyone know exactly what the rule book says about the list of penalties that they can invoke in this situation?

I'm sure that LH would have loved to have had a fine rather than losing grid positions after his recent case of brain fade in the pit lane.



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comment by ctbctb (U4819572)

posted Aug 24, 2008

BTW fining the driver in this instance seems dumb.

If anyone should have been fined it was the Ferrari team member that released him early or the team that decided to implement their dodgy light system.

A system that that they themselves say mal-functioned and caused the KR incident - rather than that KR screwed up.

Dare I say that F1 should look at the way NASCAR enforces its pit stop rules?

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comment by ctbctb (U4819572)

posted Aug 24, 2008

BTW2 - FM drove a beautiful race!

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comment by kentc81 (U8308933)

posted Aug 24, 2008

Why do the FIA have different rules , if that incident involved McClaren, they would have been pulled in for a drive through penalty !!

10, 000 euro fine is an utter joke !

Alonso got a 10,000 fine for cutting across into the pit lane at the last second.

where as ferrari almost caused a crash.

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