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Embarrassment

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by Morgan (U5122905) 20 August 2008
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What a joke! 35 minutes with Northern Ireland down to 10 men and a penalty saved. Why is it in Scotland that the teams we support play worse against teams with 10 men? When did we last win a friendly anyway? Was it against Estonia or Trinidad, I can't remember.

I just thought that McLeish didn't tinker with the team selection cos we spent 5 years giving players experience and now we have Burley who is ignoring players like McCulloch, Maloney, Whittaker, Teale, Hughes, etc. Are these players going to be in the next squad? How is Whittaker going to start the match if he isn't established yet? Better still give me one reason why Alexander is a better player than Whittaker?

Also, why was Darren Barr given a cap tonight? When is he ever going to get a game for Scotland in the years to come, ahead of Dailly, Weir, Caldwell, McManus, Berra, etc. Even Broadfoot and Wilkie should have got a call up more than Barr.

Today we just lacked something. If I had to put a word on it i'd say we are tactically inept. Our set pieces are attrocious. Even Alex McLeish knew how to dismantle Ukraine with good set pieces, all Burley uses for set pieces is pass out to the wing and if in doubt, pass it back to the goalkeeper.

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posted Aug 21, 2008

I am worried about the qualifiers but scotland are always dross in friendlies.

I would be worried if i was your mob though. One shot against a very average scots team playing poorly.

I mean statistically we were far superior yet i see a lot of Norn Iron fans raving about a great performance? You guys played perfect Rangers UEFA cup style anti football. Just a shame you missed the pen or you might have been awarded your diploma from the Walter Smith School of how to be really rubbish but win.

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posted Aug 21, 2008

Yeah, Scotland are always poor in friendlies, and seem to improve dramatically when the competitive games start, so i'm not too worried about last night's performance.Scotland will be fine when the competitive games start next month. Northern Ireland were also poor, and are kidding themselves if they think last night's game was a positive for them. 2 crap teams with lots of 1st choice players unavailable, in a crap friendly, who will both be miles better come the start of the qualifiers. Sums it up.

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posted Aug 21, 2008

I'd just like to point out to those who say last nights result was "embarrassing" the following...

Northern Ireland in the last campaign were just as unfortunate not to qualify as we were. They beat Spain, Sweden and Denmark at home and ran them all close away, drawing in both Denmark and Sweden. In the end they only missed out by three points.

Northern Ireland may not be world beaters but they are still a tough team who have made equally remarkable progress as ourselves in the past two years.

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posted Aug 21, 2008

As a Celtic fan I still would have liked to see Boyd get a shout for Scotland, got a better chance of scoring us goals than Miller going on that performance.

Also Barr was right to be given a call up I think, looks like he could be a fine player in the years to come, so I don't see why he shouldn't be given some early experience at International level.

However, with this being said, I still think we have to vastly improve in order to get some points on the board for the World Cup Qualifiers, Mon The Scotland!!!

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comment by TheJags (U3787459)

posted Aug 21, 2008

Barr looked pretty good for me. McCulloch has been borderline offensive for Rangers so why should he get in the squad? Experience is important, but you're forgetting something even more so; form.

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posted Aug 21, 2008

i have a few positive things to say and a few negative.
firstly it was great to see darren barr getting a game and showing waht he is all about. the two biggest chances of the second half came from him winning a header in the opposition box. he has confirmed what us falkikr fans were dreading- he will have to leave us to get another shout.
apart from that - when is burley going to realise that these old players are not the future. i thot he had it sussed out when he dropped weir etc, but to recall them and have the AUDACITY to start weir and alexander is appauling. what message does this send out to the fringe players who were initially in teh squad, who werent trusted to perform in the dark blue. i do hope tht when hutton is bak, and whittiker find form, we will be playing with young enthusiastic and FAST full back.
as for the striking. why cant kris boyd get a game. he scores goals for fun, and usually the excuse is he cant play as a lone striker, bt he certainly can build a partnership and would have no problems scoring against and old motherwell lad(as he has shown in the past) and a man utd youth player.
GET UR FINGER OUT BURLEY - give the fans what they want!!!

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posted Aug 21, 2008

I'd just like to point out to those who say last nights result was "embarrassing" the following...

Northern Ireland in the last campaign were just as unfortunate not to qualify as we were. They beat Spain, Sweden and Denmark at home and ran them all close away, drawing in both Denmark and Sweden. In the end they only missed out by three points.

Northern Ireland may not be world beaters but they are still a tough team who have made equally remarkable progress as ourselves in the past two years.

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Sound review of us. With us missing players as well as the scots I thought we held our own. We chose this away game to try and test when travelling away in the next campaign because in the last that was our downfall. Winning 5 outa 6 at home and only drawing 2 and winning 1 away.

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posted Aug 22, 2008

Yeah it was a crap match thats true. However Northern had 5 starting players missing, and its not as if are players play in the top divisions. James McFadden played well, but he doesnt actually do anything with the ball after beating 3 players. Thats why he's at Birmingham and not Spurs or Liverpool. Listening to the scottish fans here in edinburgh were i live you'd think scotland were world beaters, at least we know we're crap, but we also support our team through thick and thin. Plus we respect other countries national anthemns. So much for the famous tartan army; their an embarassment.

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posted Aug 22, 2008

I cant beleave you think that wilkie & clubfoot are better than Barr.

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posted Aug 22, 2008

I don't think it was as bad as most seem to think from a scottish point of view, at least we seem comitted to try and pass the ball, although the game had a very un-nerving 'Craig Brown' feel to it which doesn't bode well.I hope Burley doesn't go down the route of just throwing caps at anyone, i think we've got a lot of good players these days, maloney & o'connor still to be considered. disappointed not to see S.fletcher though. I thought N.Ireland were very defensive.

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