posted Sep 5, 2008

Wages should be paid back to the Club, sure: but let us not crucify a man financially for human errors that have taken place. He is part of a huge business world of financial activity, that has mind-boggling levels of complexity.
Peter Ellson

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posted Sep 5, 2008

When Rio served a 9-month drug ban Man U stuck by him. Chelsea could have waited for Mutu to complete his ban and continued with him, fining him whatever wages they wanted in the mean time to compensate themselves. THEY sacked HIM, end of. They can't agree a massive fee with a club, sack the player they bought, then demand that sacked player cover THEIR mistake in paying so much money for him. Ok, so taking drugs is bad and all, but look at it objectively. All the drugs did was render him unable to play. Its no different to someone being unable to play due to a prison sentence (Barton), or a broken leg (Cisse), or just refusing to play at all (Berbatov). If any of their clubs had sacked their players then they wouldn't be able to claim anything back. I'm not trying to be Mutu's adovocate here, but this whole mess is Chelsea's fault. They should have learnt more about the player when they went to sign him, and kept a better eye on him when they had him. If I was the judge, and Chelsea brought me a case like this, I'd fine Abromovich £15m just for wasting my time. The reason Mutu couldn't play for Chelsea anymore (thus rendering the cost of his transfer redundant) was because Chelsea SACKED him. Fine the guy that sacked Mutu the £15m if it means that much. I don't think Mutu should have to pay them anything. The only reason it has even got this far is because the whole issue has lept up people's moral backsides. Law should be always be reasoned and objective, whereas morality can never help but become subjective and biased. I feel sorry for the guy, he's obviously just being made an example of by the anti-drug campaigners.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

It's hard to justify terminating someone's employment on the basis of testing positive for a recreational drug once which was done not within normal working hours. The law is not as clear as some seem to think on this. If for example someone is caught drunk at work it is not necessarily staraightforward to sack them for this.
The previous poster mentioned Ferdinand at Man U. In my opinion, this was just as serious as Mutu's offense but is treated differently by the media because he is a high profile English player.
Again as I stated before, one lapse in conduct such as testing positive for recreational drugs is not a justification for sacking someone. Terry has brought Chelsea in other ways and not been heavily censured. Merson at Arsenal was treated very differently when he admitted drug and alchohol problems.
If everybody lost their job for making a silly mistake very few people would be in a job. The Chelsea fans saying that the current judgement is fair are not being objective. One of the richest clubs in the world are trying to use their clout to screw £13 Million out of a guy whose only crime was to snort somethimg he shouldn't have on a night out.
Whether Chelsea fans want to admit or not, employers have a responsability to treat employees fairly and proprtionatly. If Merson, Adam's amd Ferdinand didn't deserve to be sacked then neither did Mutu.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

sineone,
if you don't understand my post then I suggest you don't comment on it. Throwing insults around doesn't make your point any more valid. It makes you sound unsure of your position. Also maybe try and get the hang of capital letters before you try and post on forums.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

Bluto, it was written in his contract that he would be dismissed with no compensation if such a thing like this happened. He made his own bed, now he can sleep on it. It was written in Terry's contract, I'm sure the same would happen.

He got what he deserved.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

oh you got me there bluto, my arguments hold no water because my punctuation and grammar is poor. good argument, ill not bother you with my opinions on this forum ever again, as obviously anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, what with you being all knowing and omnipotent.

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posted Sep 6, 2008

Once again people are blinded by their own anti-Chelsea bias.
Chelsea have done NOTHING wrong. Mutu violated his contract. He had been given the opportunity to come clean BEFORE he failed his drugs test but he refused it. Chelsea were within their rights to sack him.
Chelsea lost a lot of money on Mutu so would obviously want some back. I will admit the £14m price is high but the irony is thats what it was set at after Mutu's first appeal. It was originally 9m, which was about fair.
But the racial discrimination accusation is just ridiculous and not even worth commenting on.

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posted Sep 6, 2008

14 Million is seriously to much It shouldn't go by how much a player is sold for should go by how much wages per week which would be far. It like saying If Rio would have been sacked he would have to pay back 30 million? Dont think so now

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posted Sep 7, 2008

This is just Chelski trying to reclaim a bit of cash for when Abramovich drops Chelsea next season!

Seriously though, wasn't this all to do with Mutu saying and being fully fit to play for Romania when Chelsea claimed he was injured and wanted to rest him. The result - he played the match for Romania and a couple of weeks later he was sacked. The lesson - tow the club line or else...

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posted Sep 8, 2008

I think players need to be fully aware of the implications of drug taking in football as it sends out a bad message to kids if we allow it to continue without stong measures. This is tough but it sends out a message to players who should be taking their careers seriously and not acting like rock n rollers. Also this money will help pay for Boswinga!!!!

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