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Scoring debacle

Olympics
by BigBobBlack (U8801578) 14 August 2008
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Is it just me? Or is the scoring on the Olympic boxing done by someone not actually watching the fights?

Certainly in Murrays fight the scoring was embarrassingly one sided to the Chinese boxer who looked very ordinary. Even the commentary couldn't disguise their unease that about 50% of Murray's clear scoring shots were not registering. How many times have we heard the commentary wondering how a shot didn't score, but ultimately, being British, we don't want to make a fuss... The result was probably right in the end, but there was an overwhelming whiff of 'home advantage'.

So, having watched that match, it now seems to to me that its a common thread that when one fighter gets a lead, the points tend to race away and the scorer seems to be only watching one fighter. Some of the fights I'm watching don't seem to be the same ones as the whoever has their finger on the button...or am I imagining it?

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posted Aug 14, 2008

I think anyone watching boxing is liable to be watching one fighter more than the other.

Whether conciously or sub-conciously as a fan or a judge this can effect your scoring.

Then there are times when people just cheat!

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comment by Ceej (U12287346)

posted Aug 14, 2008

I think the “scoring debacle” seems to have coincided with a lot of British boxers losing bouts.

From what I’ve seen, they all lost their bouts, comfortably. Basically Terry Edwards arguing that it should have been 17-10 rather than 17-6.

Olympic boxing has always been like that. For punches to count, all 3 judges have to score a hit, within a second of each other, or something like that! Always open to interpretation.

If you look at some of the punches that Murray/Saunders claimed should have been scored, they’re over-exaggerating it a lot.

As in, we are talking minimal midriff shots, that they claimed were guaranteed scoring shots. Give me a break boys.

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posted Aug 14, 2008

I agree that Murray lost, but the margin was ridiculously wrong. As i mentioned on a previous article amatuer judgeing is what it say's on the tin"Amertuer"!!......

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posted Aug 14, 2008

The main issue I have with the scoring is how difficult it is to land a scoring boddy shot, I've also seen many hooks failing to register. The judges want the fighter to exchange straight punches to the face and that is it. if you land a flush hook your less likely to score with it than with a half decent straight right. I also agree that our boxers have been well beat... unfortunately

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posted Aug 14, 2008

Agree with you to an extent Chris, but the Murray bout in particular, was farcical that he should go in 4-0 down after the first round.That basically meant he had to chase the fight and wholly different tactic had to be employed. The Saunders fights i feel were fair results, with either poor gameplan instruction or a failure to execute a gameplan. Either way i am hugely dissapointed as i beleive they should have been in the medals

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posted Aug 14, 2008

It'd make a lot more sense for each scoring shot to be recorded by each individual judge and then an average of the three totals taken at the end - too many scoring shots are missed under the current system. As with most of the above points, I still think the British lads were fairly beaten either way.

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posted Aug 14, 2008

As usual ceej trying to make it about brits.

Author raises a very important question, the scoring has been rubbish, irrespective of whether this has led to the wrong results for our fighters or not.

The number of jabs in particular that have jolted back a fighter's head without a score being registered has been ridiculous. And there is definately an element when two boxers land in one exchange, only one of the boxers is given a point.And the only body shots I have seen scored have been those Saunders landed in his first match which obviously won him the fight by stoppage.

Another thing. There are not 3 judges, but five. And only 3 of the five have to score a punch for it to count. You have obviously not even been watching the boxing, and are just jumping in with comments to try and annoy people.

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posted Aug 14, 2008

There's only one way around it. A form of London prize ring rule's.10 point's for a knock down, & @ that point the round ends. If there's no knock down after 10 minutes, then it's the 1st knock down that wins. No more spec saver sponcered judge's required!!.......

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posted Aug 14, 2008

Its because all the judges have to press their keypad within a second of each other for the point to register and they dont even score body shots.

The scoring obviously changed after IOC made threats to remove boxing from olympic sports because of previous terrible decision that occured in many olympic games ago. Remember RRJ against the Korean guy and many others

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posted Aug 17, 2008

lots of things are wrong with the scoring in the olympics take the gymnastics louis had the same score as the other guy but got a bronze instead of silver, i would of thought the most obvious solution would be extra time so to speak let em do it again basically. Or even share the silver which is even more exciting in a way because a new bronze medalist is introduced. The boxing is so open to interpretation i think two minute rounds favour perhaps the weaker boxers who can do that for two minutes and steal a win.
My own personal opinion is take it to 4*3mins yet again though you see so many scoring punches land that arnt counted...how to solve that?

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