posted Aug 17, 2008

Edinburgh Pete

Please make your position clear.Is it or isn't it contemptible to take out your frustration on ball boys ?

In your first post it is "Why not "

In your next you write "In life
you respect the officials etc,otherwise sport is not worth playing'

In a later post you appear to condone "a curt word at one point in the throes of a frustrating afternoon"

Are ball boys to be awarded less courtesy than an official ?

As for the rest of your rant ( an attempt at irony perhaps ) re floggings and supporting our countrymen , it is all wildly irrelevant and silly.

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posted Aug 17, 2008

Like yourself, finally a point we agree on.

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posted Aug 17, 2008

You haven't answered the question

Instead you have resorted to trying to give a slick reply to avoid it

Do you or don't you condone his behaviour towards the ball boys.

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posted Aug 18, 2008

The ball boys deserve whatever they get. It'll make men of them .

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posted Aug 18, 2008

Especially the girls

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posted Aug 18, 2008

ITT - Second time we agree, it was a slick answer wasn’t it

You seem like someone who has to continually prove you are right about AM. I sense you must spend your time watching all his games, looking out for all of the Murray misdemeanours so you become THE authoritative person on his behaviour on 606, which is kind of sad really.

Granted Murray is no angel, you either love him or hate him. However a different journalist described the exchanges with the ball boys as irritations caused by confusion over delivery of balls or towels further complicated by the desire of one of the Ballgirls to almost collide with him when retrieving the ball. Hardly abuse but hey I guess its all in the portrayal of the info and you & JO make the better story – Nasty Andy Murray.

He has already stated his Olympics experience has been unprofessional, however you have dissed that as being an excuse so can’t see him winning you over some time soon then.

Of course, Murray isn’t the first player to get irritated with ball boys, nor will he be the last. Indeed our new OC, the great Rafa was once reported as doing exactly this by the BBC during his classic 5 setter with Muzza at the AO in 2007. Still at least AM didn’t hit one in the face ala Henman.

So to answer your question, No on this occasion I don’t consider Murray’s behaviour to be contemptible - the attitude and comments of some posters however on this board well that’s a different matter. Trust that clarifies it for you.

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posted Aug 18, 2008

Edinburgh Pete

Yes ,that's clear ! You think that behaviour is fine and dandy and to be accepted along with the swearing and the general bad temper he displays when things aren't going ok with him.

That's entirely your perogative of course but the fact that I ( and others ) do not like it does not mean , as you suggest , that we are unpatriotic and do not support GB

We do not OBLIGED to approve of this behaviour simply because he is GB and shows promise in a sport in which we do not do well in a a rule.

And by the way , you can't read the word "trying "

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posted Aug 18, 2008

ITT - Ah the end of a beautiful relationship – shame and another english lesson to boot great. Ah the irony of it all.

So its okay if you are Rafa, Henman and half the current tour but if you are Murray then it’s a big no no, no swearing, bad mouthing etc. Fair enough. I bow to your greater knowledge as the paragon of virtuous behaviour.

Wait a minute though you support Arsenal, not exactly angels in the past so you must carry emotional attachments to sportsmen of this country regardless of behaviour and discipline.

Maybe just maybe and I have a sneaky wee feeling about this, you just don’t like him because he’s Scottish. Afterall its sort of hiding behind a pretence that you say he behaves badly on court, that’s hardly original or is it because you only support winners so you can sound good therefore you back Rafa all the time. Interesting - which one is it. Dont tell me I can guess, you a purist who is in it only for the love of the game and everyone else who disagress with you is unpleasant and unbecoming of sport - thanks for putting me in my place, I feel suitably chastised.

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posted Aug 18, 2008

Edinburgh Pete

When all else fails ,it's the Scottish question.

Wrong.

I've lived many years in the Highlands and I love Scotland too

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posted Aug 18, 2008

Well, glad you've sorted that out boys.

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