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Unbelievably bad luck!

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by diego1982 (U12766932) 03 August 2008
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Massa was simply a different class today, but he's been failed by the Ferrari not for the first time this season.
He can still win the title but it will be a lot harder than it would have been if the race had finished as it should have..

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posted Aug 4, 2008

So a non professional view of the race results

Massa (desperately unlucky,Lifes' a biatch ain't it)
Kovvi (Lucky but he made his luck count)
Glock Ditto.

Raikonenn. (bloody lucky ,a real jammy sod did not derserve a podium for driving his car live a Supertanker all day.)

Alonso (Mobile Chicane,How he would love to roll the clock back exactly 12 months how different things would be eh!Nuff said.)

Lewis (An enigma!unlucky to had tyre blowout,lucky to finish.Could this be his year after all. He's made some howlers this year,then drove some outrageous races.. so on Balance deserves to be just about where he is right now)

The rest of the Field ET AL

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posted Aug 4, 2008

Incidentally what the hell happenened to Alonso that allowed Kimi to get by him? Just before Alonso pitted, Kimi had an off and dropped some way behind, then when Kimi pitted only a lap or so later he was suddenly about 3s down the road?!! He must have made up about 5 or 6s in a couple of laps?

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posted Aug 4, 2008

Three great drives, but only Glock got there in the end. Massa and Hamilton were also supreme and for me the only deserving title contenders, Raikkonen once again leaving people wondering what he was doing for the first half of the race. If Hamilton had those 3 or 4 laps over Massa in the second stint it would have been a close battle for the win with the soft tyres perhaps being the deciding factor. Hamilton did seem to do well on them in the end so who knows? Very unlucky for both of them, especially Massa.

Who should win the title now? Raikkonen inherited it last year from Hamilton/Alonso after some mediochre early race performances, and this year it's more of the same - there's somebody in but the lights aren't on. Massa is awesome in the right conditions, is a ballerina in the wet but is totally committed so would be a worthy winner for me. Hamilton is awesome everywhere but blotted his copy book in Montreal and over-reacts sometimes under pressure, but would also be a worthy winner. Like they say in F1, if you want to come first, first you have to be in a Ferrari or a McLaren.

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posted Aug 4, 2008

Massa had a near perfect race. But after Ferrari's reaction to Lewis Hamilton's puncture they deserved for something to go wrong. Anyone who watched the race would have seen the Ferrari team in the garage cheering as Lewis guided his car back to the pits.

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comment by Dave F (U2054058)

posted Aug 4, 2008

I thought that Massa had the race in the bag and was pulling away from Hamilton even before the puncture.
I just wonder if there is a weakness with the McLaren when it comes to heavy front tyre wear on circuits with a lot of hard braking. It was again the front left tyre that caused a problem (just like Heikki's blowout earlier this season & Lewis's crash in practice last season). People are saying that Massa overstressed the engine to cause the blowout (denied by Ferrari - obviously), and McLaren are insisting it was debris that caused Lewis's puncture, but obviously they would say that rather than saying there is a flaw in their chassis.

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comment by Harry (U1666088)

posted Aug 4, 2008

Engine burn out on Massa's Ferrari? I don't get it? Was Massa chasing at anytime or behind?

Can someone explain, if you are 23 secs infront of Kovalainen how can you burn out your engine?

Massa should be coasting with his engine turned low.

It's LH who was chasing Massa which is why he over cooked his tyres, and eventually got a puncture.

I notice Massa had a so called engine burn out after Ferrari found out he suffered a puncture, and LH was fifth.

Another chance for Hamilton then!

I remember when Schumi used to come back from the back of the grid and WIN, how come Schumi had no engine burn out?

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posted Aug 4, 2008

i'm really pleased to see so many LH supporters giving credit and consolation to others drivers on this thread. Something the 'other side' could learn from to make these forums a pleasure to read in future. not everyone is so open-minded ofc, but hey its a step in the right direction.. icecoollewis

couldn't agree with you more.. it only goes to show the mentality of some of these so called ferrari fans who find it hard to acknowledge that LH has got talent. and only come up on this forum to spill out nothing but Bile..

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posted Aug 5, 2008

"What about Kimi's tyre explosion at the Nurburgring when he was in the title scrap with Alonso 3 years ago."

Was that not Kimi's own doing though since he flat spotted it and that was the year the tyres had to last the whole race? It looks like a flat spot on Hamilton's tyre also put him at a higher risk of a puncture, but he had to push hard to stay in touch with Massa. The risk didn't pay off this time.

Massa did a fantastic job though. He had to do a Hamilton style start as I think it was his only chance to win the race, since Hamilton had the heavier car to counter any attempt to pass during the pit stops. He must have been right on the limit of going wide though looking at how much he locked the wheels - easily the best start of the year. I was gutted for him at the end.

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posted Aug 5, 2008

Tyres have never been completely reliable, although I do wonder if a compound could be made which was virtually unbustable, albeit at the cost of less grip. I don't see how you can blame the driver if a tyre becomes liable to deflate if he flat spots it. Surely that is more down to tyre design, and the important factor is to keep the car safe at all times. As for tyre wear, it's fair enough that the tyre will not work as well for one car/driver combination as another, but a driver shouldn't have to worry about the risk of one of his tyres suddenly letting go at high speed. Adelaide 1986 was the classic race where tyre wear was the deciding factor for the championship that year. Everyone had problems, but Mansell's exploding tyre on his in lap for new tyres cost him the title, and but for some amazing car control, serious injury.

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posted Aug 5, 2008

Having read the wide variety of views on this thread, I feel I have to mention something to macmilex.
Perhaps it was just me, but I recall seeing the McLaren mechanics doing just the same thing when Massa's engine blew.

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