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Tiger's Absence Bad For The Game: Discuss

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How much will the golfing world suffer as a result of Tiger's absence? My guesstimate would mean at least 10,000 off the gallery figures for the Open, incalculable in the States.

But what of his fellow pro's? How many will be buoyed at the prospect of now being considered a contender as opposed to an also ran? I know some have been saying "whoever wins there won't be an asterisk stating Tiger didn't compete that year" on the stats, but I think the opposite.

Like it or not, Woods has set the bar. He is the yardstick by which all others are measured. Whoever wins the Open/USPGA, regardless of how well they played or who they beat they will go down in history as the winner who didn't have to beat Tiger, such is his dominance of the game.
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comment by Joe G (U4314969)

posted Jun 25, 2008

comment by thisboggieisforeal (U8429870)
posted 53 Minutes Ago

woods is sooo out in front in the world rankings, if mickelson won every tournement while woods wsas out injured , woods would still be no.1 !!!! he is the greastest golfer of all time and possible the greatest sportsman of all time... name me one other sportsman tht has dominated his/ her sport for so long ????

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My knowledge of world sports isn't outstanding but the following leap to mind.

Stephen Hendry
Pete Sampras
Roger Federer (unless his career absolutely nose dives in the next 2 years)
Jan Zelezny
Sergei Bubka
Joe Calzaghe (and a couple of other boxers)
Steve Redgrave


Tiger Woods is without a shadow of a doubt one of the greatest golfers of all time. Without doubt one of the greatest sportsmen or women of the past 25 year. But comparrisons beyond that are pointless at best.

How can you compare Tiger with his private jet, army of staff and the perfect courses he plays on to someone like Old Tom Morris who dominated British golf as a past-time on courses that were like today's rough on the green and for no money of note.

And how ON EARTH do you say who is greater, a golfer who dominates or a swimmer, boxer, pole vaulter who never gets beaten?

Bad dog thisboggieisforeal, back in your box. doh

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posted Jun 25, 2008

Most people only watch golf and the major tournaments because they want to see Tiger Woods. It'll be interesting to see who can rise up to the challenge and now maybe an Englishman can win a major.

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comment by Patero (U12395645)

posted Jun 25, 2008

Ali is the greatest sportstman to have graced the planet bar none.

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posted Jun 25, 2008

Here's a wee thought - will the US Ryder Cup team be stronger without Tiger - I think so and we all know why.
On the point of "The Greatest" - I say with today's highly competitive environment there is no doubt that Tiger is. Yes, Jack has numerous seconds and top 5s as well as the victories but did he really have the plethora of quality young talented players behind him the way Tiger has?

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posted Jun 25, 2008

golf will be boring without the greatest player the game has ever seen, bring on next year and lets hope tiger can do a grand slam to equal the great mr. nicklaus's record, fairytale stuff i know, but one can hope!!!

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comment by Joe G (U4314969)

posted Jun 25, 2008

"comment by Patero (U12395645)
posted 55 Minutes Ago

Ali is the greatest sportstman to have graced the planet bar none."

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That comment is fine as long as you realise it's opinion rather than fact.

And to be fair it's not an entirely unreasonable opinion, I justbthink the whole notion of a greatest sportsman is rather vague. You just can't compare the world's best footballer with the world's best fencer or jockey.

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posted Jun 25, 2008

sir steven redgrave has to be the greatest sportsman ever - 16yrs of continuos training for his gold medals. cant see how anyone else can compare

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posted Jun 25, 2008

everybody has an opinion as to who the greatest sportsman of all time is and nobody can argue with any of them.
Take Sir Steve Redgrave he was at the top of his sport for many years and won 5 Olympic gold medals. What a career and he is only one of many sportsmen and women who have sacrificed and spent thousands of hours training to achieve that ultimate prize. Bear in mind if they don`t win they come away with nothing. People like Tiger Woods are making millions out of sport whether they win or not and from that point of view they are not under so much pressure to perform. Someone earlier mentioned Old Tom Morris and if you read into the early history of golf you will see that in his day he played challenge matches for a purse of 10 shillings (50p nowadays) If he didn`t win he got nothing and sometimes couldn`t afford to buy food. There are many stories about others. Boxers, athletes skaters wrestlers and awhole host of others who have made sacrifices and I don`t think they get enough credit for their hard work. I remember Gary PLayer saying years ago that golf was changing and becoming more physically demanding. A lot of golfers chose to ignore him and gradually saw their careers plommet.
Most of the modern top golfers have a fitness programme which they stick to ridgedly and as a result we see players hitting the ball much farther than before. Much of this obviously is to do with modern technology but physical and mental fitness is I believe the major factor.
Ask a man to swing a 5lb hammer and see how long he lasts if he`s not fit.
Another point was made about Tiger being missing from the U S Ryder cup team and to be honest I think it will take the pressure off the rest of the team. I think the U S will win and some creton will dedicate the famous victoty to the missing Tiger. Thank god I`ll be away on holiday

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posted Jul 10, 2008

Great sportsmen in different sports should not be compared on the their achievements but grouped together.
Howver they can be compared on their personas. Woods is the consumate professional who concentrates on his sport. He is never in the headlines for the wrong reasons.
Federer, Redgrave, Hendry, Ali or Sampras can all be admired, while the likes of O Sullivan should never be. Michael Jordan shows his lack of class and his selfishness a few times.
Alot of others in the the past and present have had a severe lack of competition which will also hinder their legacy.

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posted Jul 10, 2008

Tiger's absence will not be bad or good for the game of golf. He may be missed but Golf will survive, as will Tiger. Those who normally enjoy the Ryder cup will still enjoy this years and nobody's performance should be questioned because Tiger is not there.
As for luck, you make and deserve your own luck by working hard over a sustained period. Fact is that good luck is usually balanced by bad, but either way the greater sportsmen/women don't go on about it.
On "The Greatest", wow there have been so many the list is thankfully a long one. Certainly Redgrave must be a contender. Not just 16 years, more like 25 with 5 consecutive Olympics, and all that with Diabetes and Ulcerative Colitis, truly a great sportsman. So too were Moore, Sheene, Prost, Armstrong, Leonard, Banks, Borg, Lee and so many others. To be considered one of the best you have to win. To win you have to be there. To be there takes a level of dedication most people are not prepared to endure. So enjoy the feats of all of those who can and do.

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