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by wallaceno7 (U7521908) 07 June 2008
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What a performance pulled like a train and had all trouble in running. Truly a unbeliveable Horse. Well done manning bolger and the rest!!!!!!!!!!!.

Congrats Arkle!!!!!! 3rd time lucky

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posted Jun 7, 2008

I was stood by the winning post this afteroon holding betting slips for New Approach and Tartan Bearer. As they came down the home straight I thought Tartan Bearer was going to power home. However the staying performance of New Approach was quite exceptional.

It will be intersting to see what happens in future races. All that I would say at this stage is that this is probably the best Derby winner since at least Galileo.

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posted Jun 7, 2008

2 mins 36.50!!!!!!!!!! 4 seconds slower than Lamtarra. New Approach is one of the slowest Derby winners of recent times. There is nothing exceptional about this horse,please explain diabolical time( flat out)as for Authorised,he got exposed for what he really was, a sub standered, overrated horse, performances do not lie. New Approach, beaten in two guineas, his chance of greatness disappeared then along with his snail-paced winning Derby time.

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posted Jun 8, 2008

Poppypauldan,

The time to reflect on how good a horse New Approach is will be at the end of the season. your arguement that a horse cannot be considered great because of its Guineas failings is flawed. Are you suggesting Mill Reef was not great because he got beat by an exceptional horse in Brigadeer Gerrard in that years Guineas ? I think not.

The Derby time was not exceptional granted but was ran marginally faster that the previous days Coronation Cup and Oaks and Soldier of fortune is a leading fancy for this years Ark so therefore this is a good yardstick for later in the year.

Considering how free New Approach ran in the early stages then I sugest the horse has a serious engine and I can only see further improvement in him given he will now be trained for 10 and 12 furlong races in the future. The horse may yet get a rating of 140 come the year end but as I said earlier only time will tell. HTN v New Approach over 10f could well be mouthwatering.

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posted Jun 8, 2008

New Approach is an expensive and genuine horse, K. Manning is a keen and has a lot of patience. Both deserve the right merit and level, by upgrade]the second to the top list of UK jockeys and the first to be sent to Godolphin stable.

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posted Jun 8, 2008

It was a great day that started well with McCririck back on the "Morning Line" on Channel 4. Excellent coverage and camera work by the BBC as usual. I had 5 on the winner too. The best 1.5 mile horses I've ever seen are Old Vic, St.Jovite, Dancing Brave, Peintre Celebre (best of all), Helissio, Sinndar, Sakhee, Galileo, High Chapperal, Lamtarra, Generous, and Monjure. We'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if New Approach can join this elite group.

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posted Jun 8, 2008

For some reason the Americans place alot of emphasis on times and furlong/split times in their horseraces.I've never understood this atall.The only time I could see this as being relevant, is if the race was run as a sprint,indoors and on some type of all weather track.Yesterdays Derby time matters not a hoot.When New Approach takes on (and in my opinion beats)the older horses later in the year,then he will go into the future computer generated horseraces as a genuine contender to beat the likes of Dancing Brave, Montjeu,Mill Reef etc....

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posted Jun 8, 2008

Poopypauldan....Cumanis Derby winners Kayhasi and High Rise did faster times than Vincent O'Briens Sir Ivor and Nijinsky....were they better horses ???

Didn't think so....so DON'T go knocking New Approach on account of the time....as far as I am aware he is the FIRST Champion 2 year old since, another "GREAT", Nijinsky, to win the Derby !!

The way he did it was truly incredible...under the circumstances !!

Rangeofwarwick....Jim Bolger ALREADY considers him superior to St Jovite !!

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posted Jun 8, 2008

Anyone watch the sunday forum on atr. GREAT STUFF

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posted Jun 8, 2008

Yeah Mccirick is still claiming glory however I don't feel Sheik Mohammed will be offering him any of the winnings.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

Did Tartan Bearer go to early ?
Timing is imperative and i think if we look at the rerun of the Derby that Tartan Bearer went at least one furlong too early !
Still does NOT take away the great win for New Approach.

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