posted Jun 8, 2008

magicalzola

rijkaard brings the attacking football tht RA craves.

secondly, he has won back to back la liga titles.....which is a load more than what deschamps has achieved.

finally he has won the CL.......again something deschamps never did.

Why do you keep saying a lesser team like monaco team???

im sorry but any team tht gets to a final isnt a lesser team as you put it. Ur saying lesser to make his achievement look more than it actually is. At the time Monaco were one of the best french teams hence why they qualified for it in 03/04 in the first place. dnt get me wrong any manager tht takes a team to the CL final deserves credit but i fail to see hw this alone makes him better than rijkaard.

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posted Jun 8, 2008

Chelsea_Alan,

I don't see any other clubs breaking their back trying to sign up Rijkaard either.

Not after he was sacked by Barcelona.

ChelseaFC_David,

If you want to delude yourself that Monaco are a big European club then be my guest.

Once again your logic doesn't stand up to the light of day.

You say that Rijkaard has done better than Deschamps because he has won the Champions League once with Barcelona.

Big deal.

With the superstars at his disposal at Barcelona he should have won the Champions League at least once.

Ronaldinho was absolutely on fire in 2006 and its no coincidence that Barca went on to win the Champions League that year with players like Messi, Samuel Eto'o, Deco, Iniesta, Xavi and Puyol in the team.

Who did Deschamps have in the Monaco side that he took to the Champions League Final?

Fernando Morientes is the only really good player I can remember in that side.

Monaco certainly didn't have players like Ronaldinho, Messi and Eto'o.

Who's to say that Deschamps wouldn't have done a better job at Barcelona than Rijkaard did?

Achievement in management is relative to the quality of players you have in your side.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

u say right i also think that Deschamps can be a good boss for chelsea because he showed us that he loves chelsea more than other else who can be chelsea's boss

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posted Jun 9, 2008

Magical Zola, I've been a long-time proponent of Deschamps for exactly the reasons you mention.

One important factor is that he actually *wants* the job unlike Scolari who a) can't speak English and b) is being coy about it.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

bluegawhale, I agree.

We should appoint a manager who really wants the Chelsea job.

There's no point trying to desperately convince someone to take the job when they don't really want it.

Ancelloti has said that he definitely does not want the Chelsea job.

So why are we desperately trying to convince him to change his mind?

If we get a manager who actually really wants the job then its much more likely that he'll stay around in the long-term.

What we really need at Chelsea is a manager who will be with us for a good few years.

Chopping and changing the manager every two years is not conducive to long-term success.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

"My guess is that Inter wouldn't have won three consecutive titles if Deschamps had still been in charge at Juve."

Would he have prevented Juve being relegated for match fixing? That would be some achieveement, as would stopping Inter from winning while his team was playing in serie b

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posted Jun 9, 2008

Keep in mind the punishment dished out to Juve and AC, not only accounts for points gained as a result of corruption, but also as a deterrent to future corruption.

That is the size of the points deduction was more, possibly *far* more, than the amount of points gained as a result of corruption.

Certainly, in Juve's case, one cannot make a sensible argument that bribes kept them in Serie A (let alone finish with 91 points)!!

While this gives no clues as to Deschamps' abilities as manager, it does cast doubt on Mancini's true credentials, which I think is the key point.

Did corruption really account for the 15 points with which Juve finished above inter for the first title?

How much credit can Mancini take for winning the second title at a canter when their closest rivals have been removed from the title race before it has begun.

Was the 3rd successive title that impressive given that a) their closest rivals are either badly ageing (Milan) or have lost their best players to Inter itself (Juve) b) the locker-room unrest reported at Inter

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posted Jun 9, 2008

thts a gd point about someone actually being appointed who wants the job.

i dnt knw why we are so keen to get Ancelotti....its time RA realised money cnt buy you evrything.....i heard he was prepared to offer a 20mill compensation package which is ludicrous.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

Agreed.

RA needs to take a step back and stop this pursuit of Ancelloti.

Ancelloti has said that he is definitely staying and personally I don't blame him. He's got a cushy job at Milan with the full backing of the board.

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posted Jun 9, 2008

TBH i jst want this over and done with.....its gone on too long.

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