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England debutants may lose caps

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Four England players could lose their first caps
after Fifa said the 3-0 friendly win against Trinidad & Tobago may not be rated a full international.

Fifa is unhappy that England made one more than the maximum six substitutions in the 3-0 win, although the Football Association thought it was pre-agreed.

Dean Ashton, Joe Hart, Phil Jagielka and Stephen Warnock all made their first appearances for England.

But their debuts are now in danger of being erased from the record books.

Do you think that is fair? And how disappointing would it be for Gareth Barry, who scored his first goal for his country in the match?

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posted Jun 5, 2008

What a pointless game, there was absolutely no need to fly to the Carribean to play a friendly against a 2nd division team. Waste of money, and no benefit to the England team as a whole

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posted Jun 5, 2008

comment by Capellos_Translator (U10679107)
posted 25 Minutes Ago

What a pointless game, there was absolutely no need to fly to the Carribean to play a friendly against a 2nd division team. Waste of money, and no benefit to the England team as a whole

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Is that a joke? Every heard of Jack Warner and a certain WC bid?

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posted Jun 5, 2008

guaranteed, if this had been a 'lower' team in the great scheme of things they would have lost any argument. If this hadnt been awarded A status it would hit Englands rating in the world and seen them possibly slip further down the rankings. Still, WC bids, pats on the back, a word behind closed doors etc etc football at times is like boxing, the inside fixing, dealing and corruption can be smelt for miles aaround

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posted Jun 5, 2008

Ok looking at some of these comments and people are arguing over this. I mean what the hell? Even if it was stripped from the records, is it really that big a deal in the first place? Also I've read someone using Corruption in this discussion. In all honesty using an extra sub after a mistake by the official during a friendly against well lest face it poor opposition is nothing like the match fixing scandal in Italy. Teams were genuinely denied trophies they shouldn't have and could have been cheated out of it. If th 7th English sub scored the winning goal in the 12th minute of the allocated 3 minutes of stoppage time and if the gaming had any real significance (i.e. crucial world cup game) then I could understand people getting worked up over it, but seeing as it isn't then relax.

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posted Jun 5, 2008

but the game as a 'full' international does have meaning as the win is allocated to England and used in how they are assessed in the world 'league'. They are currently outside the top 10. A few more bum results and they would slide towards 15th to 20th positions, seriously impacting how they would be seeded in future tournaments - they could face some really tough qualifying groups in such a scenario. The decision taken does have an impact. It was more than a 'friendly' in that respect.

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posted Jun 5, 2008

Well then. Its safe to say Hart has had one of the worst England debuts in several years. A goalkeeper who cant catch the ball???

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posted Jun 5, 2008

I can't believe people are making a big deal of this. Its the referees job to check how many subs come on the pitch, and i mean there is a fourth official.

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comment by Shabba (U10985904)

posted Jun 6, 2008

And its a sh1tty international that won't make a blind bit of difference. If it had been a match of importance (Euro 08) than I would care but its tedious just having to hear about it

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posted Jun 6, 2008

As a fully paid-up cynic, have to echo esssienisanengine and hope it doesn't change them voting for you in whatever FIFA vote you need them for (future WC bid ??) which struck me as the primary motivation for this friendly....

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