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If Hatton Ko's Magic man!

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if ricky hatton can pull off something that not even miguel cotto could and stop or ko paulie Malignaggi do you think this would stop the critics saying he is passed it? or will he have to do more to redeem himslef?
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posted Jun 1, 2008

Graham is far from a legend. What he is the man who told all and sundry that he had the plan formulatd to beat PBF, a theory that was cruelly and brutally exposed. I also am not keen on the fact that whenever one of his fighters wins such as Hatton against Tyzsu he is forefront claiming his tactical genius then whenever one of his fighters loses a high profile fight it is because they didn't follow his gameplan (Hatton Floyd - Macklin Moore)Ray Arcel is a legend, Eddie Futch is a legend Angelo Dundee is a legend, sorry but Billy Graham does fall a little short of these guys

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posted Jun 1, 2008

jimijames70. Your the one throwing insults around with nothing to back it up. You also did not read what I wrote properly. At no point did I say Hatton was a one trick pony and all I suggested was that Hatton may benefit from a different trainer with different ideas. In regards to Kerry Kayes his S&C coach Hatton for the FMJ fight came in 3 or 4 pounds under the WW limit which obviously means he wasn't cutting. That caused in part the differential in strength and Hatton's inability to bully a fighter who started his career 2 weight divisions below him. At the very least Hatton should have been stronger than FMJ and he wasn't. In my opinon Hatton was badly advised for that fight and should at least have been able to put up a better showing.
Before you start resorting to petty name calling I suggest you ask why someone holds an opinion different to yours.

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posted Jun 1, 2008

Bluto, I think jimijames was refering to me as I wrote Hatton has become a one trick pony under Graham. The likes of him will always resort to petty name calling as they haven't got the intelligence to have a reasonable debate.

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posted Jun 1, 2008

Duly noted Irondave and I retract and all that. Still think Jimijames has got it wrong though on Graham. When I saw Graham shadow boxing in Hatton's dressing room pre FMJ fight I thought Hatton was in trouble. He's all right but he's just not a top level coach.

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posted Jun 1, 2008

The tragedy for me is that Hatton is not that limited as a fighter if you watch him in the Tackie fight and earlier fights he has soem skill. Don't get me wrong i'm not claimng he's Sugar Ray Robinson but he has more than the bull in a china shop approach he has shown post Kostya and for me Graham must take some of the blame for this not being seen in recent fights. Hell if Buddy McGirt can get Gatti boxing then if Graham is half the trainer he claims to be he should be able to get Ricky to do similarly as nobody is more committed oto having a tear up than Gatti

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posted Jun 2, 2008

laugh Hatton can't stop anyone!

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posted Jun 2, 2008

I wrote Hatton has become a one trick pony under Graham.
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** You chaps fail to understand that Graham has gotten all there is to get out of Ricky.

To be fair, I was a bit concerned when I saw the same old fatman focus mitt routine in the Floydy build up, but hoped Hatton was sorted out by his sparring partners.

One thing I've noticed about most critics is that they're analysis' are seldom a match for the quality of which they attempt to analyze.

Team Hatton does have another focus mitt coach now, but I'm not sure how much that is going to add.

Only the footy yobs were making unrealistic claims about that match. I picked Ricky in an upset, but it was never a given as it had to be the perfect fight for him to win. Cortez spoiled that and Ricky got careless in a round he was looking very good in.

If it ain't the footy sods bigging him up to unreal expectations, it's the British sods trying to match their inferiority complex by tearing him down.

He is and always will be just Ricky, madly successful and popular, an English Ali if you will. He's done things his way and will be missed when he goes.

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posted Jun 2, 2008

Now now that poor jimmy jammy really got his knickers in a twist earlier didnt he!!! its always difficult making that transition from nappies to pull ups!!! When is a Hatton sycophant (i mean fan) gonna pop up on here and engage people in a real boxing analysis of the skills or otherwise of their fighter and the technical merits of his camp... i mean a real boxing based analysis, that goes beyond these daft pub based soundbites!!! Come on lets get this on!!!

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posted Jun 2, 2008

Prediction 12 rounds of hit and hold against Malignaggi, Finally saw Ricky's homecoming at the weekend and was impressed that he seemed to have his relentless energy back but his punch resistance looks very poor some of the shots Lazcano threw hurt Ricky and I'm preety sure even magic feather fists can throw with that power at the end of the day I still don't understand how Ricky got a guy to stand directly in front of him little movement and still only hit him something like 32% of what was thrown if you think this is the key to beating Floyd theres absolute no hope.

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posted Jun 2, 2008

"You chaps fail to understand that Graham has gotten all there is to get out of Ricky."

Have to disagree. If saw Hatton's fights against Magee, Tackie and to an extent the early rounds against Urango, he showed an intelligent boxing brain. The problem with Graham is that he has a hard on for relentless non-stop pressure fighting and when this dosen't work he seems to be stuck for answers.

As I wrote earlier, this strategy was near perfect against Tszyu, but its horses for courses. What worked against a ring rusty and ageing champion was never going to work against a superb athlete at the peak of his powers such as Mayweather.

Now I don't think Hatton could ever beat Mayweather. Just not good enough. But I think he could have posed one or two problems for PBF to figure out. As it turned out, Graham's big fight plan was for the most part food and drink for Mayweather. Graham kept harping on before the fight how Hatton would beat Mayweather using "educated pressure". Well Billy, i'm no coach but I know there's nothing educated about walking into straight rights, smothering your own work and taking left hooks round after round.

If Billy was such a top trainer then surely he could see what was happening. If he could, then why was there no Plan B? Answer, there wasn't any. Billy's big plan to beat Mayweather was all a con. Of course after the fight Graham didn't shoulder any of the blame. "He's not a welterweight, he's a light-welter" was the line he was spitting out. Fair comment, but we didn't hear that line before the fight did we.

In my opinion, Graham is a BS merchant and Hatton, especially at this stage in his career, would benefit from a change of ideas.

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