posted May 15, 2008

Pavlik beat Taylor twice who beat Hopkins twice who Cazlaghe beat.

They are both undefeated and if I know boxing, ones thing for sure you can never write that fight off.

I remember people saying Mayweather would never fight Hatton, he doesn't need to, but in the end he needed to. At the moment it might not be on the horizon, but if Cazlaghe whups Jones, which I fully expect him to, it will be much easier than the Hopkins fight, and Pavlik whups Abraham, which is not in doubt, then come 2009 we could a huge world mega fight on our hands. The undefeated experienced pro against The undefeated young hungy Lion. It will be both fighters career defining fight, and all those doubters out there, watch this space.

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posted May 15, 2008

I'm not certain Pavliks that proven to be honest, and I think there are a lot of super middleweights who will fancy their chances against him.

He did beat Taylor twice, but Taylors only real claim to glory was beating an over the top Hopkins, barely. He had been looking jaded and lacklustre against the likes of Cory Spinks, a beefed up welter before getting bashed up by Pavlik. His bout against Edison Miranda was stunning, all action, it could have been held in a phone booth. However unless I'm mistaken Pavlik himself tasted the canvas in that fight, and he remains a fighter susceptible to being hit.

I like Pavlik, but I don't think he's imfallible. I think Kessler would welcome a bout with him. There are a lot of good fighters at SM, Kessler, Bute, Froch, Pascal. He may as well see how he likes it with a few of these.

He could move straight to light heavy I guess, he's big enough to, but that division is practically a graveyard, Hopkins, tarver, calzaghe, Johnson are all old men. There is only Dawson and he's no more than an average fighter in a below average division.

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posted May 15, 2008

Tyson 5'9"?

Did he really lose that much stature in prison? Surely 5'11"-6'!

As for Pavlik moving up... well, maybe, but he's 6'2" at middleweight... it's not the height that's the problem but the probability that this is his comfort zone (ie. the heavyweight guys are naturally bigger).

As others have said, lots of other good fights at MW/SMW and potentially LW. A jump to HW is not inconceivable in the longterm but pretty unlikely, at least in the short-medium term.

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posted May 15, 2008

Pavlik is a great fighter - all action. I'd love to see him fight Froch and winner to face Calzaghe. But probably won't happen.

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posted May 15, 2008

Such a stupid thread... Heavyweight? Lmao

By the way... Apparently Roy Jones Jnr wants too much money for the fight and is pricing himself out, so Calzaghe vs Pavlik at super-middle looks quite likely!

COME ON JOE!!!!!

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posted May 15, 2008

I don't think Calzaghe will win if he has to lose that half stone off. I have a nasty feeling he's on the slide, and his last two fights have taken a lot out of him. Forget Pavlik Joe, face the winner of Tarver v Dawson, whichever is victorious its an easy win for Joe!

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posted May 15, 2008

Nobody wants to see an easy win for Joe!

We want to see him in a fight that will further enhance his career or he may as well reitire.

I'll forgive Roy Jones, even though he is a has-been, because of the legend he was and the fact that even today US fight fans think he will whup Joe. BUT if Joe wants to really cement his legacy, he has to beat the best of the rest in their prime, and at the moment that is looking like Kelly Pavlik.

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posted May 16, 2008

"Taylors only real claim to glory was beating an over the top Hopkins, barely"

and calzaghe's real claim to glory? lacy and mikael kessler?

or is it the 21 defences and undefeated tag for over a decade? i'm sure other fighters in europe have done the same.

Sven Ottke

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posted May 16, 2008

Kesslers a class fighter, and beating him is no mean feat. lacy was a heavy favourite before the fight, only in hindsight did people start saying he was poor, before the fight 90% of people were picking him by ko. Add this to victories over Robin Reid and Byron Mitchell and Calzaghes ledger is wholely more respectable than either Taylors or Pavliks for me.

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posted May 21, 2008

Would love to see Calzaghe v Pavlik. Joe can still get down to 168 + Pavlik fought at 165 against Taylor.

As for Pavlik moving up to heavyweight...!!

What have you been smoking? Get us some..

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