posted May 2, 2008

I think the point is the game has been given to a country that doesn't appear to have the infrastruture to support event, there are no hotels anywhere even before football fans knew they were in the final.
And if they can't see fit to allow ticket holding football fans into the country without an expensive visa that carries all the extra hassle of trying to obtain, then they should not have been considered for the ocaision.

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posted May 6, 2008

I'm confused. Russia has waived the obligation to produce a Visa for three day period yet you must also produce a valid match ticket, passport and immigration form. If everyone's rushing around trying to get a ticket from ebay or in Moscow from a tout then fair enough. Also running the supposed minimal risk of arriving the stadium without having the identity of the ticket checked is fair enough too. But if entry in to the country is dependent on having a ticket in addition to a passport rather than a visa then surely the identity of the ticket and passport must be identical. So surely on this occasion it's impossible to enter the country with a ticket that has a different name. It might sound like a stupid quetion but i've not seen this confirmed anywhere. only that you might be refused entry at the stadium. Can anyone confirm yes or no because my common sense instincts say it's a "no go".

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posted May 6, 2008

Ossieliveson - I see your point entirely, but wouldn't that be the same wherever you go? Milan, or Madrid (who would have to take more judging by the size of the Bernabeu) taking in 42,000 Englishmen would be just as bad, and now that Visas is a non-issue, what is the difference? Carriers put up prices based on demand, and that would happen no matter where the final was held. The 12,000+ Zenit fans will have exactly the same problem - high flight prices, immigration issues, and high hotel prices. The powers of market forces!

I just think that you have to say that UEFA is UEFA, and you can't selectively chose small parts because they're easier for the powers that be - that would be discrimination. Give Russia the chance - if they screw it up, then don't use it again! But you have to give that chance... Remember, Moscow is hosting the next winter games, something that is bigger than the CL final.

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posted May 13, 2008

It would seem like the government is buckling if it is giving footballers tax breaks.

I can't remember this stopping Manchester holding the final a few years back! or for that matter this years UEFA cup. Don't be so weak Mr Brown!

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posted May 13, 2008

The thing with the final in manchester the other year was that the government "forgot" to collect the tax. The only reason that it is an issue this time is that someone at UEFA, or one of the other federations, found out about it and put it forward as a reason not to give us the final for 2010.

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posted May 13, 2008

So Moscow has no right to hold a cup final because plane fares will be high (due to demand) and the country requires visas? Actually, Moscow seems to have bent over backwards to accommodate traveling fans far more than has been done for the UEFA cup final.

'A visa should not be required to watch a game of football'

Seems like you meant to say, 'A visa should not be required to watch MY team play a game of football.'

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posted May 13, 2008

Well its good that Moscow IS holding the final.
Stop those stupid fans who go without a ticket.
UEFA should do something to stop ticketless fans from going, you are not wanted!!!!!!

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posted May 13, 2008

Well its good that Moscow IS holding the final.
Stop those stupid fans who go without a ticket.
UEFA should do something to stop ticketless fans from going, you are not wanted!!!!!!

Yes lets ban all fans from going! How is UEFA meant to do that then? Stop commercial airlines from flying all people without a ticket? What if someone is on genuine business in Moscow, an airline has every right to take whoever buys a plane ticket! There are higher and other things than football!

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posted May 13, 2008

thenunnyfox, your obviously not a real football fan. if your teams in the final,you try and do everything possible to get there even if it means jib'in it.
but hey,you stick to the armchair mate

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posted May 13, 2008

1st of all most of the chavskis fans are already in moscow and number 2 the plastics of man ure won't be flying from manchester they'll becoming from asia u could fit all of their proper fans on the plane

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