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by Paul Fletcher (U1816326) 25 April 2008
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I recently interviewed Jamie Peacock. It was tied in with the release of his autobiography, No White Flag. I thought it was a pretty good read and would like to know the thoughts of anyone else who has read it.

Obviously, it is World Cup year. Can Peacock lead England to glory or is it a pipe dream? Reading his book you certainly get the impression that it would mean a hell of a lot to him if the trophy finally returned to these shores.

Peacock, of course, used to be a team-mate of Stuart Fielden at Bradford. How important would it be if Fielden regained his form ahead of the tournament?

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posted Apr 26, 2008

Cecil. middle of the road club Wests may be, but the true test will be to see how Ellis goes during the season. The Aussies have lacked true grunt and venom upfront since Tallis retired.
Peacock is the best forward in the world. If Fielden gets back thinngs will get really exciting.
As for the Kiwis, they have a good back line, but lack forward Grunt without the likes of Lauitiiti. Thay also have zero direction from stand off/ scrum half. Lance hohaia is a joke!!!
Between England and the Aussies.

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posted Apr 26, 2008

I have been looking for a good laugh for a while and with some of these posts I have found it. What on earth makes give most of you the impression that your forwards are better than the Oz forwards. Donkey's years of defeats tells me that your forwards are not up to it. I read a earlier post 'forwards set the platform' so on that basis your forwards have failed to deliver. SHabino - I think your watching something different to me, lacked grunt. Fielden is yesterdays man. He talked the talk in the Tri Nations and failed dimally to walk it. Lauitiiti I doubt would even make the kiwi team nowadays. SL is slow compared to the NRL and this reflects in the tests. Having just arrived back to Oz from 3 years in London the gulf between the 2 is huge. That is just my opinion based on seeing about 4 games at the Stoop a year and on tv. Your forwards while they may be slightly bigger and more physical the forwards in Oz will run rings around you in terms of mobility. Watching a game on the fence you can see the the SL outside backs are nowhere near as fast / big or strong as the NRL backs in general. This is just how I see it. The kiwi were a laughing stock when they played you but will be a different proposition this time around. Bennent and Kearney will be a formidable combination and I wud think only a handful of SL based kiwis will be there. As for the comment about the kiwi not being amougst it without the samoan boys thats a laugh as that will equate to a handful of also rans like Nigel Vangana. I love your optimism but think you will finish 3rd and more disappointment for you.
PS - Ellis will do nothing next season.

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posted Apr 27, 2008

Yarbs. your views of SL are not very accurate, and watching a few woefull SL games at the Stoop (with no atmosphere) hardly constitutes a fair reflection.
If you evr come back to UK (which i'm not really bothered about either way), come and watch the Rhinos play a few games at Headingly. After watching Ali burst through forwards, and then out-pace most backs, then try and tell me he wouldn't make the NZ team.
You also seem to have scurted around my comments that the NZ half backs are a joke (which they are). How would you cover up that deficiency? With another delusion no doubt.
I'd love to see the GB boys stuff it to you Aussies. My head tells me it won't happen tho, as the GB backs are not big or quick enough.
GB Does have the forward domination tho. Lests see how tough your pack is when the likes of Peacock et al smash them onto their backs!!!

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posted Apr 27, 2008

Shabby - not bothered if I come back....little bit touchy are we. I am saying I am an expert, only that I comment on what I saw. I saw Leeds play and yes they were very good against quins. Was good to go watch a game as a neutral and not thru one eye as you obviously do. I agree NZ halves are not up to scratch at the mo and no one looks to be coming thru any time soon as a stand out. But again I dont care about NZ much like I dont care about the English side coming out. Please oh please explain to me how we have lacked grunt and your forwards will be to much for ours based on previous games and WC's. You haven't won a WC since 1960 and wont this year aswell. Fielden...don't make me laugh. Ask poor stuey if Mason lacked venom??? Peacock while a good forward he is only one man. Stats dont lie old mate....I bet you think up ur posts after about 15 pints and 3 kebabs on the way home from a game. Truly deluded shabby.

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comment by Neil (U9701706)

posted Apr 27, 2008

Im sure GB won the world up in the 70's?

Mason is not hard as some make out yes he got the better of fielden and long (hardly a fair match up) but peacock got the better of him and i saw some big kiwi smash him to bits when he tried his funny stuff with him.
Burgess graham and lynch are 3 young big strong forwards who wont take a backward step, peacock and morley can provide the experience and roby has the pace to get at you, lets see what happens when the sides meet this time

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posted Apr 27, 2008

Yarbs. It just riled me that your judgement of the English chances were based on watching a couple of southern fairies, pansy around the field. (Quins).
The only grunt the Ausssie forwards have is from their mouth, where all forms of garbage are seen from Australian sportsmen.
Its also a trait that you share with your countrymen Yarbs. I honestly don't think Eng have enough to be you lot, but would be rewarding seeing that look of utter confusion on your face. A look Aussies normally reserve for any form of intelligent conversation ;)
Throughout the years alot of your best players have ben stolen from the Islands too (Tuqiri, Civoneciva).
Bring on the WC says i.

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posted Apr 27, 2008

Shabby - my judgement is based on what I have seen. About 8 live games and a lot of TV time. I was a St Helens fan because of Talau and his association with the doggies in the NRL. The 2 comps are like chalk n cheese and this reflects in the tests aswell. Your comments of Aussies are classic....funny stuff and so accurate.
We stole a lot of our best players. You are truly not to bright at all. Players have the opportunity to state who they would like to represent eg Andrew Symonds is English born but elected to play for Oz, the same applies to Tuquiri and Petro. They can choose just like Vagana is choosing to play for Samoa this WC...are they stealing him from the Kiwis aswell?? In league we dont need to steal anyone. Your comments are as leaky as your brain.
JB1973 - well said, let see what happens!!!!

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posted Apr 27, 2008

Ok Yarbs. Now that you've got the cat fight out of your system. Who do you think the main players will be for the Aussies at the WC. I'd also be interested in seeing with who the Aussie starting 13 will be made of.
I'll give you my England team if you want. We can then discuss direct match ups, player for player.

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posted Apr 27, 2008

I am not sure about the comments that the English pack is big and tough, based on what? beating a cobbled together Kiwi Team That will have Benji Marshall in the Halves this World Cup.
Possible players
From the players Teams websites
Morley 189cm 103Kg
Graham 188cm 106Kg
S Burgess 191cm 104Kg
Newton 178 cm 98 Kg
Ellis 183cm 100kg
Peacock 195cm 101Kg
Sinfield 183cm 93Kg
Wilkin 185cm 97Kg
Buchanan 183cm 95Kg
L Burgess 187cm 98Kg
Roby 178cm 83Kg
Australia's Test team named today

Price 193cm 107Kg
Civoniceva 193cm 110Kg
C Smith 185cm 92Kg
Hoffman 193cm 104 Kg
Gallen 180cm 104Kg
Bird 183 cm 102Kg
Backs
Thurston 179cm 82Kg
Lockyer 178cm 84Kg
Folau 195cm 103Kg
Hodges 190cm 97Kg
Gasnier 193cm 100Kg
Inglis 195cm 99Kg
Slater 178cm 89Kg
Bench
Webb 182 cm 108Kg
Mason 196cm 115Kg
Tupou 183cm 100kg
Gidley 182cm 87Kg
Not midgets in comparison to England.


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posted Apr 28, 2008

hey shabby, lets not worry about a player match up. For starters we are not comparing like n like. While its League there are vast differences so any stats like tries scored, line breaks, tackles made are misleading. Like comparing La Liga and the Priemer League. To a man I would not swap any Oz player for an English one - possibly Morley of 5 yrs ago. Your still killing me with this 'our forwards are superior' - i asked before but based on what???. If the old saying is true that forwards win matches and the backs decide by how much well this shoots your argument down considering the win/loss ratio as it stands. I keep hearing of thes young guys, we have them too. Gallen, Bird, Tupou are all good young forwards who would be the equal of the young English trio thats talked about. By the way who the is Jamie Peacock???

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