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A Bad Night for Joe

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by budden07 (U9684430) 13 April 2008
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I can't help thinking that Joe Calzaghe would have been terribly disappointed with last night's Light Heavyweight title fights. I was of the opinion beforehand that an impressive win for Tarver would put him in the frame for a showdown with JC. Although Tarver won easily, he looked old to me against an awful Clinton Woods. It simply would not make sense for Joe to fight Tarver now.


Likewise for Chad Dawson, an impressive win and perhaps he would have been on JC's radar. But a rematch with Johnson is what will probably transpire. Neither Tarver nor Dawson would trouble Calzaghe. Tarver just doesn't have the gas, and neither fight would now gain him credibility in the U.S.


So, realistically, should Calzaghe beat Hopkins, who's left? Jones Jr no doubt will be mooted, but what would be gained from fighting another O.A.P? For me, the only fight out there for Joe is Pavlik. If he doesn't look to fight Pavlik, retiring is a better option (of course he'll get a nice payday for Jones Jr should that transpire).

Anyone agree, or am I talking nonsense? Opinions appreciated, cheers!

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posted Apr 16, 2008

The only fear I for Joe is the American factor. If the fight was fought in Wales or a neutral venue Joe wins 9 times out of 10. I just have concerns how Joe is really adjusting fighting / living / eating and training away from his known surroundings. I still think he has the tools o do the job, but Hopkins will be no pushover at home (although I think the crowd will be 50 / 50).

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posted Apr 16, 2008

Calzaghe fans keep making the point that Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. To anyone who knows anything about physiology, it was apparent that Hopkins had been killing himself to constantly make 160 lbs. Hopkins in his 40s was fighting in the same weight class as in his 20s. The man is 6' 1'' with a big frame. He must have been seriously depleting his body of nutrients to get down to middleweight. His low energy levels meant he had to pace himself. This was pretty apparent in his fight with Eastman and the pair against Taylor.
Compare that to the busy, strong Hopkins that was on show against Tarver.

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posted Apr 16, 2008

I stand by what I see from recent fights not ridiculous record watching, Popkins couldn't fight past 6 rounds against a well overweight winky and let him back in, Tarver by his own admission took Hopkins so lightly, father time has already caught up with Hopkins, Compare Kessler and Taylor? Point being Hopkins stayed at that weight for so long to fill it with legends who step up weights, He backed out of a fight previous with Joe and imagine if Bhop had ever fought Pavlik, Miranda, or Abrahams.

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posted Apr 16, 2008

Pacman, Hopkins backed out of a previous fight with Calzaghe because Warren wanted close to purse parity. A ridiculous demand seeing that Calzaghe at the time was a relative unknown in the US and was not bringing much to the table.
Hopkins does talk too much...although I quite enjoy listening to him. He is one of the few characters left in boxing. The only way Calzaghe wins is if age catches up to B Hop on the night. It will serve Bernard bl**dy well right.He did promise his late Mother that he would not fight past the age of 40. On the other hand, if he does prevail, how will cocky Joe handle losing his undefeated record to an almost 43 yr old grandad long past his prime?
That is not the stuff ring legends are made of.

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comment by drjones (U1771947)

posted Apr 16, 2008

I really think JC should be very careful in this fight. Expect Hopkins to be his toughest fight and i think it will be.

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posted Apr 16, 2008

Be-Hop is going to get a hiding, i never wanted this fight to happen in the first place, to me its a joke, i would sooner see kessler v calzaghe again.. so move up a wieght MK <laugh>,,, we know behop ducked joe before, we know the americans knew exactly who joe was, thats why they never tried to take belt, they knew where he was and what he is capable,,, pure boxing talent.. jc has got to be the most gifted boxers around.. certainly is a boxing legend.. unfortunately lots of peeps say that about behop too and all i can say is dont be daft.. behop ducked joe years ago because he knew fighting joe would seriously effect his wallet.

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posted Apr 19, 2008

I am amazed that some people seem to think this fight will be a walk in the park for either guy. Either one of them has a good chance of winning - but given that the fight is taken place in the US (plus the fact that it is JC's first time in the US, big fight etc), this slightly increases the odds in favour of BH. To put this this in simpler terms, the best JC can hope for is a draw (BH is too slick to allow JC to KO him, and will do his utmost to rough up and prevent JC from finding his rhythm).

On the other hand, the best BH can expect is a win on points (BH dosent have the stamina/power anymore @43 - plus JC is too slick to get tagged + JC has a good chin).

So what can we expect?. lots of holding and dirty in-fighting from BH (it will be a fatal mistake for JC if he loses his head and attempts to go toe to toe with BH in the early rounds). The most likely account is a BH win on points in a lackluster fight with only a few flashes of brilliance from both boxers.

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posted Apr 19, 2008

come on joe

show some of the united kingdom spirit and K.O him in the 3rd round

goodluck mate

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comment by Maxari (U9991794)

posted Apr 19, 2008

What time does the fight start? Is it 2am?

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