posted Apr 8, 2008

Tendulkarisgod, you're missing my point. What I'm saying is that no country besides possibly Switzerland can claim to be squeeky clean, who decides what level a country's infringements are at? Any country can refuse to tour another for any of many reasons that they could dream of. Your argument about democracy in India doesn't cut it, Hitler was democratically elected, just because elections are held doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory.

The BCCI hasn't even mentioned a neutral venue neither have the ICC proclaimed Zim a no go zone. The Zim cricket team currently plays in the SA 20/20 tournament, hasn't been an incident yet. On principle I'd agree with India calling off the tour as a stance against Mugabe but why don't they just say so? Right now it just sounds like another bulldoze by BCCI over the ICC.

Indian cricket isn't making too many friends by acting like the school bully...the administrators forget how foreign fans will unload their opinions on the unfortunate Indian players who have to visit these countries they aren't respecting.

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posted Apr 8, 2008

Amer, thanks for your pointless rant. I'm South African...and PLEASE tell me when last the Proteas boycotted a tour?

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posted Apr 8, 2008

up and under-

no indian cricket is just doing whats right, we dont need friends from australia.

India has been one of the most domocratic countries since independence, the caste system dates back hundreds of yrs and fact you bought that into it shows your lack of knowledge as its not related to democracy (wikipedia it if u want more info.). With regards to why bcci didnt say so, well it would simply have stirred up another international debate abt zimbabwe just look what happened when england were contemplating not going, this way it solves the problem quick and efficiently.

secondaly icc didnt declare pakistan a no go area but aus still chose not to go based on their assessment, now pak isnt as bad anymore but zim is potentially going to get alot worse in the upcming weeks, more than pak!

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posted Apr 8, 2008

up-and-under - I believe I owe you an apology. I thought you were Australian. You have of course never shirked coming to Pakistan and you are most welcome!

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posted Apr 8, 2008

India is caught up between having to be sensitive to the political situation in Zimbabwe, security for players and the crowded cricket calendar

so, it makes sense to think deeply before embarking on the zimbabwe trip - india does not need to beat zimbabwe to take the first spot like south africa is craving for presently

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posted Apr 9, 2008

tendulkar,

"and pot kettle black..didnt aus do same thing a few weeks back cancelling pak tour cos of "safety".

And, pot, kettle, black. Didn't you turn around and call them cowardly for not going to Pakistan. Hypocrite!

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posted Apr 9, 2008

yes because zim is potentially alot worse than pakistan, when the govt steps down law and order will no longer exist and its almost guarenteed to end in violence. Pak on the other hand wasnt and isnt even now as bad as it can provide good security and bhutto bombing was used as an excuse when in fact there has been no trouble at cricket matches.

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posted Apr 9, 2008

Actually I still say Pakistan is more dangerous. The bombs that go off in Pakistan can injure anyone.

Whilst I agree that Zimbabwe is also dangerous, there aren't random bombs going off there. There is, however, a very strong sense of latent danger there, which can erupt at any time. I also feel that the violence in Zimbabwe is more likely to be directed at the Zimbabwean people voting in elections, and between Zimbabweans, as Mugabe would not want to give other countries a reason to intervene.

Both places have too great a security risk I feel.

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posted Apr 9, 2008

Yes, just as the Australians were entitled to pull out of a tour for security reasons, so are India if they have similar concerns.

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posted Apr 9, 2008

Actually they are all worried of Lalit Modi usurping power from both Mugabe and Tsvangirai.

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