posted Sep 4, 2008

Walphy: "I know, stop it! It's like, when thinks like, go up, like, they like, go down too, innit?"

Cap'n: "That can be explained by Newton's law of"

Walphy: "Hur-hur-hur-hur! Poppadom! Woodhall."

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posted Sep 4, 2008

in all honesty he wasnt that great. he was unorthodox, exciting to watch when in his prime and had great punching power. there endeth the praise. he believed his own hype, he neglected the graft and he got found out at the highest level and IMO always would have (training or not).

he simply wasnt in the same league as true greats like barrerra and morales - both of whom would have beaten him 8 days a week. Hamed did indeed beat a lot of belt holders, most of whom were past their best (eg tom johnson)

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posted Sep 4, 2008

Interesting to see you on the same thread as captaincarrantuohil.

Why dont the two of you have a debate? Would be like Jade Goody arguing physics with Stephen Hawking.
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The captain vs Ralphy would be a mismatch on a par with Audley Harrison vs Joe Louis and would be just as fun to watch

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posted Sep 4, 2008

in all honesty he wasnt that great. he was unorthodox, exciting to watch when in his prime and had great punching power
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I still remember my first exposure to Naz.

It was on some news program where a sports commentator was making noise about modern athletes being the best ever, and they showed a highlight tape of this glitzy little prince boppin' out nameless fighters right and left, with the open ended question of whether Naz was the best feather in history?

Different style and personality, but Naz career went much like Tyson in that their fall from grace starts very early with marked declines in training and increasing entourage of yes men and hanger ons.

Naz at least has the decency to quit the sport and is not the pathetic looking character Tyson has become.

Tyson is a respected all time great however. Naz just missed the boat.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

LRR is that you?
Where are the allegoric Tom Baker style prose?

Interesting point you make about Naz quitting. I think he is possibly more fondly remembered because we didnt have to endure a much poorer version of him being beaten on by the featherweight equivalents of Danny Williams etc.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

Someone mentioned the IB Hall of Fame.

You need to study up sweet cheeks, entry to the IBHOF is not just based on achievement.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

Hamed is one of the best British Boxers of all time. Beat quality in Boom Boom and Kelley, unified some of the Feather division and was one of Boxing's biggest stars. Beat more quality in a short time than Calzaghe has in a long time.

Hamed belongs with british greats.

Not that it is any great feat mind you.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

Interesting to see you on the same thread as captaincarrantuohil.

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Captain Carra and Ralphy.

Lieutenant Dan and Forrest Gump.

Very similar partnerships, I'd have thought.

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posted Sep 4, 2008

I'm not certain that I'm worthy of mention in the same breath as Ralphy, who seems to inhabit a universe worlds beyond my comprehension. My four and five year-old children should give me an idea of how to deal with a mind such as Ralph's, but they appear to have long overtaken his ability to construct a rational argument.

I can only wish that with time and infinite patience, Ralph will discover the delights of adolescence before he reaches the age of 80 - in the meantime, we must keep him on the naughty step in the earnest hope that he will behave well enough to earn an occasional treat.

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posted Sep 5, 2008

LRR - funny you should make that comparison. I watched a Naz fight the other day where the commentator drew the comparison (but obviously not realising eithers career would go the way they did)and I thought the same thing. Both peaked early and lost their way. Nice contrast with Tyson as well.

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