posted Mar 31, 2008

Plastic... And Im proud!
Sour grapes son!! Sour grapes.

Kiss kiss

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posted Mar 31, 2008

Is dropping the team you've supported for 20,30,40 years supporting football properly?

Wimbledon FC moved its location and changed its name. Thats what happened - even if Mr. Winkleman disregarded the history of the club its still part of the process which brought Wimbledon to Milton Keynes it is still Wimbledon.

As for this farce about people saying the FA shouldn't have let this happen well lets ignore all the other countless failings the FA have made.

I just think its a shame that a football club with a new community behind it is being panned because of circumstances that are beyond there control. I know many, many supporters - not fans - of football clubs all around this country and as far as Scotland, and not many have been opposed to the move. Teams changed names frequently 100 years ago, teams move grounds now...whats the difference?

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posted Apr 1, 2008

I'm a blackburn rovers fan but liv in MK. But why do people keep bringing up MK City, MK City went bust 15 years ago, so theres no such team !

Can i say Blackburn merged two teams together to form a club, which is surely worse as they were rival clubs but kept the name from one of the clubs. The two clubs were Blackburn Olympiads and Blackburn rovers.

Also Wimbledons ground was a dump !

Great day out, wot a result !

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posted Apr 1, 2008

absolutely right! well said.
As i said in my earlier posting Football is a business now and that is never going to change. This sort of thing went on in the past and will happen again at some stage. These people who keep harping on about about tradition and history are missing the point and are just not awake to the commercial world of modern football.

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posted Apr 1, 2008

I dont want to reply to all comments individually, and sorry for teh awakrd timigs and responses to messages, but as I'm in Australia the board is often shut when i want to get on.

People have diffenrt opinons ot me, but the way I see it, MK Dons have stolen a league place and tehy are. to quote Martin Samuel, ' A horrible little frankenstein club'.
Yes, most top flight teams were automatically there, now this is where poeople need to leanrn the history, which, as MK fans, they dont havea ny to know.
Wehn most of teh top flight teams were formed there was only about 30 teams around anyway, so the best of thoise were, when the divisions were made, put into the top flight, teh worst into the second flight. More and more clubs came around, being added to teh second teir and so on. This means that they didnt buy a place, they deserved to be there, because they were baetter than the other teams.
MK may well have deserved to be there eventually, but should they have started in League 2? No.
Yes AFC started in the mid non league divisons, but considering MK stole thier place, i think theyr were aLOOWED TO, THEY DIDNT STEAl anyones place.
Yes, Blackburn merged two clubs, so did Luton and im sure tons of others have done. Thats merging clubs, not takinga league place off one and commpletly changong the name, badge, kit, fanbase, city heartt, soul of the club.

Ands for those of you that have managed to insult Luton in this, I'm 16, I've supported Luton all my life, when I could have copied my mates and supported one of the big 4, but no, i stuck with little Luton, and unlike a lot of people, I'm not going to move to MK just because they 'havea bigger stadium' or 'theres no swearing'
Theres also no atmposphere.
I hope MK go up, bueacuse tehn they will play clubs like leeds and millwall, and the 'fans' will see whats its like to support a club, and waht it means to some people.
Mabye, then, they will realise what football is to people, and what PW has done to Wimbledon.

Forza 2020
AFC WIMBLEDON
UP THE HATTERS

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posted Apr 1, 2008

teigrhyde

Well said mate
MK City was the real MK club

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posted Apr 1, 2008

teigrhyde

Ive read all your posts now, and I have to agree with all of what youve said.
As another postor has said, you clearly know your football

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posted Apr 1, 2008

Man, 50 years from now there'll still be people shouting that MK Dons "isn't a real club".

Get over it, already.

Congratulations to the Dons and to their supporters, who are among the best in their division.

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posted Apr 1, 2008

I've got to say, and im aware that fans are a massively important part of a football club so don't shoot me over that...but LTFC, the ONLY thing that PW didn't take to Milton Keynes was about 5,000 fans and about 20 youth players.

They didn't "steal" anything, same players, same manager, same coaching staff that got them where they were at the time. The name changed at a later date, and as such, nothing was stolen.

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posted Apr 3, 2008

Is dropping the team you've supported for 20,30,40 years supporting football properly?

Wimbledon FC moved its location and changed its name. Thats what happened - even if Mr. Winkleman disregarded the history of the club its still part of the process which brought Wimbledon to Milton Keynes it is still Wimbledon.

As for this farce about people saying the FA shouldn't have let this happen well lets ignore all the other countless failings the FA have made.

I just think its a shame that a football club with a new community behind it is being panned because of circumstances that are beyond there control. I know many, many supporters - not fans - of football clubs all around this country and as far as Scotland, and not many have been opposed to the move. Teams changed names frequently 100 years ago, teams move grounds now...whats the difference?
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There is a big difference between a team tweaking their name, merging with another club or moving to a ground up the road and doing what MK Dons did. It was clear at the time what Winkleman intended, hence why the 5,000 or so supporters left and formed their own club; the fact that they attracted sub 1,000 gates and were boycotted by some away supporters showed how the majority of football supporters around the land felt. I am very surprised and slightly distrustful of your earlier statement, as I know fans across the country from all levels through club, family, internationals and I have NEVER heard a single one express anything other than disdain for MK - even when the issue has been unprompted. Perhaps people are just being polite to you out of respect to you personally? As for your comment on the FA, yes they have made plenty of bad decisions - this was just one of them but in the long term it could be one of the worst.

More than most I am aware of the commercial side of the game knowing how much we spend just to stay at our level and through knowing people involved with other League 2 clubs, but does that mean that becuase we live in a commercial world we should just accept that clubs - most of whom were formed by supporters in that town - are changeable businesses to be moved on at a whim of a rich businessman becuase he wants his plaything nearer to where he lives? I would suggest that most supporters would reject that argument. If my club changed their name to Hyde Tigers or even Tameside United (shudder) I would still follow them; if they moved to a ground up the road I would follow them. If however they moved 50+ miles away with the obvious intention of becoming say Wakefield United (a city without a team above Unibond North level) because it's a much bigger place and the owner could make some cash out of it how would that still constitute the club I support in any meaningful way? Ultimately the players and staff are important parts but are transient - it is the supporters and the town that make the club, and judging by most other non MK Dons fans' comments on here I don't think I'm alone in that view.

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