posted Mar 25, 2008

If a new management team is needed then I think the best option by far would be Martin Jol, with Chris Houghton as No.2

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posted Mar 26, 2008

Bilic is perhaps still too young and has little experience at Club management, not quite ready for a job like this one yet - West Ham's new manager??....

Jol, is almost identical to WGS - fine and dandy when your competitors aren't competing and everything is rosy in the squad; as soon as the place get's a bit off pressure around it, he'll crack. He's also been found wanting tactically against the Blackburn's, Everton's, Bolton's etc.

My first choices would be Deschamp or Scolari - both looking for jobs to start in summer. If they didn't want the job then I'd look at Mowbray.
Moyes won't want it yet, had Everton got to the UEFA final or even won it, then he'd be ready for an OF job.

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posted Mar 26, 2008

some off the names being put about for a job that is not up is stupid.

theres no way would scolari come to us hes a barca or milan manager

.as for moyes its way to early for him to come to us he will want to win something with them no just get to a final

Deschamp would be alright but again think he might look else were but he would be the easy one out off them all to come to the bhoys.

Mowbray is not ready yet to be the manager off celtic not enough time in if any at a big club.

and deff not martin jol never really proved it with spurs

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posted Mar 26, 2008

Scolari a Milan or Barca manager?!

Don't you imagine that Jose Mourinho and Frank Rijkaard might be the men in charge of those clubs next season?
Scolari has missed his boat; he passed on the move to a top level European club by dedicating his best years to international management - successfully.
He was spooked from the England job a few years ago and ended up staying another tournament with Portugal, while the other "huge" international jobs he might have landed went to others - Capello, Low, Donadoni etc.

He has a big ego to match his knickname and needs a club that can offer CL football and domestic contention. He's not going to get that kind of an offer from England, Spain or Italy where the top jobs are either filled for the forseeable future or perhaps out of his league, so to speak - Madrid, Barca, Milan.

That leave's him the next level of jobs around Europe - Bayern, Dortmund, Bremen, Celtic, Rangers, Fenerbahce, Galatasaray, Porto, Benfica, Fiorentina, Lazio, places 5-8 in the Prem and La Liga etc.

Out of that lot there aren't many jobs going or likely to be. This summer in particular may see more good managers available than there are jobs and may be the right marketplace to be looking for the kind of leader to keep us at the level we have reached so far.
WGS has delivered the silverware thus far, but that doesn't mean he can't have reached his peak for as far as he can take us, or even sustain us. I'm not convinced he can be the figurehead that this club requires in the "hot seat"; and think that the fact "team 3" is far poorer than "teams 1 or 2" in terms of cohesion and ability is showing that.

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posted Mar 26, 2008

Shamrock007 does not have a clue. He slags off everyone else recomendations but does not come up with a viable one himself.

jakebrother is spot on, Scolari missed the boat and is no longer a potential Milan or Barca manager and we really have to be looking as i am convinced WGS is away at the end of the season.

MON came from Lecister and thats a smaller club than West Brom so there is no problem with that. May be a good choice, I like thwe style his teams play as well.

Jol another good choice

Moyes not ready? What are you on about. he is a good young Manager with a lot of experience taking Everton from a potential old divison one team to near qualifaction for the champions league two times in three seasons. Get a grip!!!

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posted Mar 26, 2008

wt bout steve mclaren pmsl or even roy keane

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posted Mar 27, 2008

Would definitely take Bilic but doubt that he would come to us - would imagine the premier league down south is more likely.

Deschamps isn't good enough, hasn't really proved anything anywhere apart from getting a Juve side filled with superstars back into Serie A - wasn't a great success in France either. Scolari is an mbitious choice plus probably wouldn't do that brilliant over here anyway, again probably more likely to be premier league.

How's about this though - Mark McGhee - he's done a good job at motherwell, plus he's a celtic man and he knows and respects the fans, unlike strachan who I sometimes thinks see us as these kestrel-drinking-coked-up-to-the-eyeballs neds that he was talking about a while ago.

Fair enough McGhee might not be the glamorous, fanciful name that has been mentioned previously but he could take us (and himself) to another level if he manages to get in the door. His record down south isn't too much different from strachans (fair enough he never managed in the prem), he was always a really good lower league manager.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

"Moyes not ready? What are you on about. he is a good young Manager with a lot of experience taking Everton from a potential old divison one team to near qualifaction for the champions league two times in three seasons. Get a grip!!!"
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If that comes in reference to the end of my first post, then I'm afraid I've been misunderstood! I mean't that Moyes would be ready to take an OF job if Everton had made the UEFA Cup final this year; rather than Moyes is not yet ready to manage the OF .

"Deschamps isn't good enough, hasn't really proved anything anywhere apart from getting a Juve side filled with superstars back into Serie A - wasn't a great success in France either."
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True enough, Deschamp's Champions League Final appearance with Monaco wasn't viewed as a great success in France ..........

And the establishment of some stability and promotion back to the top flight was by no means a formality at Juve. The prima-donna's could have sulked rather than sweated; and the whole club was under the shadow of Pessotto's health and wellbeing.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

Jakebro - I don't really disagree with any of your comments regarding celtic, although I do definitely think that deschamps is maybe being hyped up a bit and just wouldn't really want the possible downfall if he's another PLG (ie - a lot of things worked in his favour at previous clubs that maybe made him look better than he actually is).

At Monaco, the reason for them getting to the final - 3 players, 2 of which were already at the club (Prso(hate to say that!) & Giuly) & another he was fortunate to snap up on loan(Morientes).

Remember the score in the final was 0-3 versus the same Mourinho's Porto that could only manage 3-2 aet against us the previous year!

And sorry but don't agree with the Juve thing - Buffon, Zebina, Camoranesi, Nedved, Del Piero, Trezeguet aren't really the kind of prima donnas you would expect to sulk and wilt in Serie B(ok maybe trez) - the Pessotto thing would have spurred them on. Any manager would have got them up that season. I think it says a lot that the board wouldn't trust him to work with the team when back in Serie A.

Agree with your points about strachan though. He still hasn't found a settled midfield and there's only 8 or 9 games to go, plus this whole 'slashing the wage bill' is a pile of nonsense - Peter Lawell controls that side of things - no manager would ever want to slash any wage bill, normally they want to make the side better, although going on strachs signings (at least 50%) you wouldn't actually think that.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

JC thinks Strach should get more money?! What exactly has he spent it on so far ? remember Adam Virgo for 1.5m, Mo Camara, Du Wei, Lee Naylor, Gary Caldwell, Donati, Killen the list goes on not to mention the shambolic way he has treated an exceptional talent in Derek Riordan. Im fed up hearing about two league titles and two last 16 places in the CL; with the league there was no challenge from Rangers and if it had not been for Romanovs meddling im in no doubt Hearts had the best team that season; as for the CL O'Neill also on two occassions finished up with 9 points and failed to progress Strach simply had luck on his side . The worrying thing for me as a Celtic fan is that due to Strachans ability to reduce the wage bill dramatically and turn around the clubs financial stability the board will back him to the hilt which means more dross from the lower leagues of England and bosman deals. The current Rangers team is pretty woeful (but excepional jammy) and we're lagging behind them so what does that say about Strachan's side? Hate to disappoint all you bhoys who want a new gaffer but it looks like we'll need to continue to suffer this season and beyond as Rangers clean up domestically and who knows they'll probbaly win the Uefa on penalties or something aswell.

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