posted Mar 27, 2008

Whether the initial desicion was right or wrong the player should accept it and if he believes the referee is cheating he should contact the FA and they should review it. In my view only the captain should be able to speak to the referee: this is how such matters are dealt with in Rugby and it works well. Mascherano was a disgrace and needs to realise that he is not an 8 year old and no matter how much he cries and stomps his feet the decision stands. He is lucky he has talent because how he would cope in a normal work environment is questionable.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

anybody who comments on this incident based purely on seeing the sending off is completely missing the point. from the moment Mascherona was booked, he was in Bennett's face every time United transgressed. it was exactly the same each time - "if you booked me, why don't you book him?". And he'd swear, and he'd sneer and he'd pout. Mascherano was sent off for PERSISTENT Dissent.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

Well I watched the highlights with both of his bookings, and I do believe the decision was tricky for the referee. Mascherano did do a number of things leading up to the incident, I remember the commentator saying that he had to be careful with arguing and stuff. I think the referee just got tired of it all.
However, I do believe the referee acted too quickly. I think he should have told Mascherano to back off or get sent off. Even so, even though Mascherano felt the decision was unfair, that's life sometimes and you just have to grit your teeth and bear it.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

anybody who comments on this incident based purely on seeing the sending off is completely missing the point. from the moment Mascherona was booked, he was in Bennett's face every time United transgressed. it was exactly the same each time - "if you booked me, why don't you book him?". And he'd swear, and he'd sneer and he'd pout. Mascherano was sent off for PERSISTENT Dissent.

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posted Mar 28, 2008

"Mascherano was sent off for PERSISTENT Dissent."

Which is obviously a far worse offense than the persistant hacking that was taking place on the pitch. That being the case, then your precious little Portuguese rent boy is fair game, as it is far less an offense to give him a good kicking than it is to ask a referee "what's happening?"

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posted Mar 28, 2008

comment by srodgers66 (U3950323)

Oh, I didn't realise there was a new rule for PERSISTENT dissent? When did this new rule come in? Because I just thought that there was a dissent rule and it should be followed accordingly by the referees? Please enlighten me as to where this PERSISTENT dissent rule is in the football rule book?

Also can you clarify why Torres was booked? Was he PERSISTENTLY showing dissent towards the referee when he got up and pleaded with the referee to protect him from being kicked. Yet no other Manu player was booked for dissent in the first half but there were numerous occasions when Manu players shown dissent?

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posted Mar 28, 2008

comment by eighteenseventyeight (U9034254)
posted Yesterday

Bitter RS the first time something happens to your team and u want a national enquiry. Yes all players who tell the referee to **** off should be booked and if they do it again sent off but considering the outrageous bias and favouritism your team gets in most games it really is a bit rich for the FSW and the RS support to keep going on about it. To be fair though I can understand your concern you would be a mid table team if you actually had decent impartial refs overseeing your games.

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I only visit this website in passing these days because of this unprecedented level of stupidity, ignorence and arogence that has seemingly infested every single person in the world. I know I'm a Liverpool fan, but comments like this are just stupid. We get harldy any favoritism and bias; I think the one game vs. Everton when it happened, the Everton manager went neurotic, obviously Rafa is a far better man and kept his cool but you can see his fuming inside. I would have been asking the ref why Torres got booked if I was on the pitch; CAN ANYBODY TELL ME? He was just asking for protection having been kicked about by the United players...can you imagine if Christina Ronaldo was booked for asking for protection; Fergie's head would've exploded and Quieroz would've gone on a machete-rampage; IT IS LUDICROUS, all masherano did was go over WITH A DAMN SMILE ON HIS FACE and ask WHY.

I'm waiting to see what happens the next time the Chavski mob gangs up on the refs; hopefully he'll send the whole team off, but considering Chavski's financial status, I strongly doubt it

YNWA

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posted Mar 29, 2008

To Block 206.
Get real mate. You say there is "one rule for the Mancs and a different one for every one else. You have a short memory.There are numerous occasion where Liverpool have also had the rub of the Green. Im sure there are Many Evertonians who would agree with me on that score.Look at the Lescott/Carragher Incident in this years Derby. Also Why was Matterazzi sent off in the champions league tie? When Gerrard dove against Sheff United at last seasons opening game and the ref gave a pen because it looked like "intent". So stop making excuses. All the top teams get the benefit of the doubt, including Liverpool. Mascherano deserved to go. You cant expect a ref to to tell a captain to "have a word" Gerrard should have had the Balls and leadership to tell him to calm down himself. You were well beaten on the day, exept it and move on Mr Hard done by.

Maybe this link will Interest some. The League dosent lie!

http://rightresult.net/

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posted Mar 31, 2008

Hmm i dont understand why some Mancs seem to put down the champions league to just a cup comeptition!

Fact is its not just a knockout competition

There is a league in the competetions and the other stages are played over 2 legs...so I hardy think its like the FA cup

In addition all the teams who play in the champions league have finished in the top 3 or 4 of their domestic leagues so theres no lesser teams in the competition.

In fact in the premier league you also play 2 games against each time just like in the champions league both in league satges and advanced stages!

Winning the champions league is not easy like some mancs on here seem to imply...they're just jealous cos they have difficulty winning it...not many refs to help them in europe.

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posted Mar 31, 2008

stretfordendole

I wasn't aware of the warning that took place before but saw it on youtube. He was warned and it was worthy of a yellow card but I think generally that before he made such a decision he should have pulled Mascherano to one side and made it clear that if he uttered one more sound he would be off. He did point before the second yellow but I didn't think at the time that he was about to send him off.

Generally I just think that before a referee makes a decision that will affect the outcome of a game he should make it absolutely clear that a person is on their last warning. I have seen this done in relation to tackling before but not dissent because it is usually put up with. If the referee had pulled him to one side and made his intention absolutely clear then Mascherano might have acted differently. He did seem surprised to be sent off. Generally though I can't argue with your views because the referee did motion to him to keep quiet often and he could have been sent off earlier for swearing alone.

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