posted Mar 24, 2008

Roy Jones jr and Floyd Mayweather jr could have nursery rhymes sung to them between rounds and it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

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I think they probably could because they have a relaxed style but you must understand boxing is more psychological than it actually is physical and most people realise this and when you come in with being fired up it can really work and a trainer makes a huge difference he keeps you to your gameplan if you start to stray! you obviously have never boxed in your life

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posted Mar 25, 2008

RUN OF THE MILL FIGHTER WHO TWENTY YEARS AGO IS JUST A TRIALHORSE I'M AFRAID. IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE IN BOXING THESE DAYS IF YOU SHOP AROUND FOR THE WEAKEST LINK.

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posted Mar 25, 2008

Enzo wanted Rees to throw the jab before attacking the body, not just wade in with hooks that left him open. The jab is a vital weapon for all boxes. Tyson and Ivan Calderon both did/do their best work off the jab.

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posted Mar 25, 2008

A good corner man is required when things are not going their boxers way!!

If the boxer is doing fine then he doesn't need his corner.

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posted Mar 25, 2008

I actually do think a good corner can make all the difference.

Watch Clinton Woods vs Rico Hoye, Woods followed his corners plans and instructions to the letter, they made the adaption when they find Hoye is susceptible to the left hook, and then bingo bango he takes Hoye apart.

look at how poor Hattons corner was against mayweather, they had no plan B, no alternatives when he was getting outboxed.

There was a fight not long ago, an dI can't think of it now, but the corner were an absolute embarrassment. They offered their man no practical advice, seemingly had no game plan, in short had no idea and their fighter just fell apart.

Some guys have all the physical gifts but not the brain. If a fighter doesnt have a boxing brain then a trainer and intelligent cornermen can be the difference. If this wasnt the case then it wouldnt make a jot of difference who a fighter trained with.

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posted Mar 25, 2008

"I think they probably could because they have a relaxed style but you must understand boxing is more psychological than it actually is physical and most people realise this and when you come in with being fired up it can really work and a trainer makes a huge difference he keeps you to your gameplan if you start to stray! you obviously have never boxed in your life"

To be fair using Jones and Mayweather as examples is completely ridiculous anyway. When have they ever gone back to their corner after a 3 minute beating in need of a change of tactics???

If you think that a boxer getting back to his corner battered, knackered and demotivated can take in a minute long tactical talk then it's obviously you who've never been in that situation.

Rees' stategy had been hammered into him in the weeks previous to the fight. He could have had Enzo Calzaghe, Emanual Steward, Freddie Roach, Buddie McGirt and Irish Mickey from Rocky in his corner and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference!

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posted Mar 25, 2008

The Ring Magazine are no mugs and must have researched before they awarded Enzo the title. However, even the greatest trainer in the world would need a miracle to get Rees to win two world title fights.

http://www.competitiveurge.com/who_is_the_greatest_boxer_ever

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posted Mar 25, 2008

Agree with Worthster, it would take a MIRACLE to get Gavin Rees to win two world titles. People only noticed him after he took it from M'Bayme, whom i must say was in 7th gear in that fight. Any for anyone thinking about a Rees vs Hatton fight must be in la la land as hatton is in a class above.. no one was slating him before mayweather, he just lost to the best.......thats what would happen to rees. Simple As, COME ON RICKY!!!

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posted Mar 26, 2008

Frank Warren help to give the elusion that Enzo C was a great trainer!!

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posted Mar 26, 2008

comment by sanatogen (U518441)
posted Yesterday

"What's said in the corner between rounds is of little importance tactics wise"

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Anyone who has boxed (including myself) will tell you otherwise

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Yes they will, and yes, I have boxed.
As someone has already quite rightly stated, no boxer should need telling to keep thier hands up, anymore than they should need telling to keep their eyes open.
However, the sudden criticism of Enzo calzaghe is typically british. One minute hes a genius, next hes rubbish - neither is actually the case. Hes a very good trainer whose son is an exceptional boxer and who has an even chance (I believe) of beating one of the (other) best fighters of the last 20 years. EC did well with Enzo Macc, who had power but was limited and froze against Haye. Rees got lucky and then was exposed, simple as that - the lads got tons of bottle but its just not enough at that level.

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