posted Mar 19, 2008

we will be one of the best.


Can accept that. But will and are, are two different things.

Be honest you need to get rid of Eboue or at least we need to see the club do something to improve his conduct.

Rooney isn't perfect, he's getting better, we get the odd dive from Ronaldo but nothing near the way he was when he joined us.


United and Arsenal have come along way since the Keane Vieiria days.

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posted Mar 20, 2008

Sadly, United & Arsenal's management haven't.

1. "We lost, so the ref was obviously biased"
2. "I didn't see anything involving my players, but everything involving theirs."

World-class managers, but kindergarten-class attitude.

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posted Mar 20, 2008

1. "We lost, so the ref was obviously biased"
2. "I didn't see anything involving my players, but everything involving theirs."


Something else you see from other clubs, but your jealouisy blinds you of that.


"Our lad isn't dirty."

"Our buys have respect for the ref"

"Poor decisions today from the ref"



They all do it, just some managers as with their teams get more television and radio time and have their words twisted more than others.

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posted Mar 20, 2008

"Sadly, United & Arsenal's management haven't.

1. "We lost, so the ref was obviously biased"
2. "I didn't see anything involving my players, but everything involving theirs."

World-class managers, but kindergarten-class attitude."

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Yet Redneck and Pompey fans STILL go on about a foul on Pires 4years ago and deny it was penalty. Why are they still whinging about it. I saw mention of this on this boards last week AND Harry was still talking about it.

I tell you what, load of myopic whingers!!

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posted Mar 20, 2008

You have a point - all managers are myopic whingers to some extent - Harry included.

But re. the Pires thing - you have conveniently forgotten that it was right at the beginning of Arsenal's record-breaking run. As long as they keep banging-on about the record, Pompey fans will keep noting yet another example of referees being afraid of upsetting the big boys.

And Canadiano chappy:
I've heard this tired old stuff before about "more airtime, more exposure, so a distorted view" - it's a sack of horsepoo. This is 2008 - surely you're not suggesting that the rest of the Prem. is underexposed, what with the internet etc.? And why should I be "jealous?" Like a host of glory hunters, I could support a big 4 club. I'm quite happy to support my home town, is all, and Fergie's ill grace in the FA Cup particularly riled me.

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posted Mar 20, 2008

Fergie's ill grace in the FA Cup particularly riled me.



In general though you have to admit he is right. OK we should have had a penalty, but if we'd taken our chances that wouldn't matter. Our red card was debateable and there were some challenges that were underpunished, Rooney included.

His statements about refs in general were proven in the extreme by the Cole and Riley debacle. Then there is the Aliadiere suspension, the refs need sorting out and that starts with Hackett.

The Mido incident is another showing how poor and inconsitant the officials really are.

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posted Mar 20, 2008

"But re. the Pires thing - you have conveniently forgotten that it was right at the beginning of Arsenal's record-breaking run. As long as they keep banging-on about the record, Pompey fans will keep noting yet another example of referees being afraid of upsetting the big boys."

Oh I see!! So if Arsenal fans/manager complains about decisions it is whinging. If Pompey do it then it is justified. Glad we got that clear (and yet WE are hypocrites )

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posted Mar 31, 2008

You're obviously a bit slow on the uptake, so I'll repeat myself.

I said this above:

"All managers are myopic whingers to some extent, Harry included."

All football fans (including me) tend to have a biased view and the Pires thing will stay long in the memory, because we were still pretty lowly, Big Club fodder at the time. We weren't expected to give you a hard time - we did - the ref. got conned by Pires (or are you arguing that Pires routinely runs with his leg swishing sideways?) and an early chance of glory went. Arsenal then went on their massive run of form, for which - all credit.

BUT:

1) No matter what you may feel, the 'Big 4' have benefitted from gutless refereeing on more occasions than anyone else
2) Granted, we all whinge, but Big 4 managers have made it an art form.

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posted Aug 18, 2008

In retrospect I think Mido should have received a 6 month ban!

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