posted Mar 27, 2008

I dont think his record is outstanding you consider everything England do has been channelled through him.

If Gerrard plays 100 caps and took every free kick or any of the new crop of players for that matter.

Ashley Young
David Bentley etc

They would end up with a similar record to Beckham.

I am talkin purely football ability here, he is not world class, he is world class at selling merchandise and making others lots of money.

Do you think if Beckham had the looks of Peter crouch he would be anywhere near as famous globally?

Please dont use the jealousy card here. I am trying to be objective about a footballer who is a media made illusion.

He is adecent, hard working footballer who has had his time

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posted Mar 27, 2008

Do you think if Beckham had the looks of Peter crouch he would be anywhere near as famous globally
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what does have to do with football - if you wanna talk about his fame go on a different website - this is about football

And if you give someone the set pieces and he gurantees a goal every other game - that is a good return in anyones book

the only way it could be better is if he made/scores a goal in every game and this is ridiculas

Hes a quality player, ok theres a question mark whether he can still cut it but you cant argue thats hes been anything other than a top player in the past

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posted Mar 27, 2008

ok fair enough.

The fact he now lives in a different continent is relevant to his future England career.

It bugs me that we have lots of players trying to break into his position, playing in a better league.

We dont have a tournament until 2010! Why are we still carting out Beckham when he is not the future.

I agree that Beckham has a good record for England.

The players coming through can actually beat a man and are in their early 20's and should be given their chance just like Dave was many moons ago.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

The fact he now lives in a different continent is relevant to his future England career.

It bugs me that we have lots of players trying to break into his position, playing in a better league.

We dont have a tournament until 2010! Why are we still carting out Beckham when he is not the future.

I agree that Beckham has a good record for England.

The players coming through can actually beat a man and are in their early 20's and should be given their chance just like Dave was many moons ago.
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He does live in America – however plenty of Brazilians and Argentineans etc live in Spain/England without any problems regarding their international career – I don’t think this is an issue

The fact he plays in a league which is poor has to be taken into consideration, however its not the same as someone whos only performed in the US, last season he was part of a team that won la liga and he proved he could cut in the premiership – hes got the quality whether he can maintain it is the question

And although we don’t have a tournament to 2010 we have to get there first – we learnt from the last time we havent got a god given right to qualify so we should be playing the best players now and concentrating on getting their in the first place

No one is gonna argue the younger players shouldn’t be given a chance, the problem is people are calling for beckham to retire etc which is stupid as it cuts one of our options – if hes fit and playing well hes probably good enough for the squad if not the team – if hes unfit or hes quality drops in the US then don’t play him – simple

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posted Mar 27, 2008

He does live in America – however plenty of Brazilians and Argentineans etc live in Spain/England without any problems regarding their international career – I don’t think this is an issue
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There is a big difference.

The South Americans play in Europe beacuse of the money and the QUALITY of the football.

DB went to America for more money and WORSE football.

If we are gonna rely on DB to help us qualify I guess in three years you'll be saying he can still do it then.

Had he come back to England and shown us that he is still the best then maybe I would be happier for him to play.

The football in USA is equivalent to league one imo.

He wouldnt play much if he signed for Crewe, and that is about the standard he is now playing.

Stat for you,

Real Madrid (most decorated team in european football)

DB is the longest serving player in their history before they won anything with him in the squad.


He is in decline and this is a major reason why he is now playing minor league footy

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posted Mar 27, 2008

so bcekham was found out once again against first rate opponents last night-just as he always has been across his career.his "cult" is so tiresome,when he was at his "peak" in 2002 and 2004 he was utterly naff being totaolly shown up in euro20004 by a genuine talent-Rooney-and now he thinks,backed up by his legion of celebrity lovers-that he can prance around deep on a football field at this level and still be of reolevance-what an absolute JOKE-get rid of him now.

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posted Mar 27, 2008

Stat for you,

Real Madrid (most decorated team in european football)

DB is the longest serving player in their history before they won anything with him in the squad.


He is in decline and this is a major reason why he is now playing minor league footy
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Yeah his record at real isnt the best but then i could reel out his reocrd for united which is unbelivebaly successful

1/2 million a week and the fact he didnt want to play for any other team in england or spain are partly reasons hes playing in the us

The standard in the US isnt good - but you dont go from part of the team that won la liga 1 year to not being able to cut it at all

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posted Mar 27, 2008

You want to only talk football, that is fair enough.

I would suggest that "external factors" played a bigger part in his decision to go to USA than his future England career.

You have to admit though, he is having his cake and eating it.

How can you play in an inferior league and still keep your place in the national side?

I am with Dwight on this. The circus that surrounds him has a negative impact on the squad and although DB was a talented player it is time to move on.

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posted May 23, 2008

I disagree, its Beckham's experience and enthusiasm that sometimes keeps the England team trying to win. He leads by example and anyone who has been to an England match when Beckham has come on will know what I mean.

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posted May 23, 2008

No one can deny Beckham's experience or enthusiasm but those are his best attributes now.

If we are to have any hope of developing a decent team for future tournaments that is simply not enough any more.

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