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Tyson v Holyfield III - say it ain't so...

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It was with a quick chuckle and a much longer sigh that I greeted news that Evander Holyfield, 45, may fight Mike Tyson, 41, again.

The chuckle was for the sheer audacity of it all. Only in boxing could two has-beens even entertain the idea. Only in boxing could they expect to get paid millions of dollars for making a ridiculous idea reality.

Which brings me to the sigh. Of all the boxing circuses we have been "treated" to over the years, this would be the mother and father of them all - complete with big top, trapeze and a Tyson-owned white tiger.

And then there is the small matter of Holyfield's bitten ear - the product of Tyson v Holyfield part II.

What would they call part three? "Holyfield bites back", "Once bitten, twice shy"?? The mind boggles.

Of course, it probably won't happen. It is very convenient that Holyfield's comments on the matter coincide with the release of a new book.

He was quoted as saying in The Guardian: "There has been some talk between us.

"Mike had Jeff Fenech, who's been training him, call me a few months ago. Jeff says Mike wants to fight me again - but he needs to know if I would agree to it.

"I said, 'It all depends on what they are going to give us - because I'm gonna catch a lot of flak if I say I'm fighting Mike Tyson again. I've already said I don't want to fight Mike no more'.

"Jeff says, 'What if Mike gets in proper shape?' I told him that's OK but I can't be part of it if Mike's going to pull out.

"Jeff said, 'The main thing Mike
wants to know is if you would be willing to fight him again?' I said, 'Yeah, if the price is right, I probably would'."

Is this just book-launch bluster? Would you pay to see it if it wasn't? And (sigh), who would win?

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posted Mar 7, 2008

Everyone always talks like all boxers are failures if they aren't remembered like Muhammed Ali.

I like to look at all fighters and then decide if I like them or not and if I'd pay to watch them. Fact is, I personally preferred both Tyson and Holyfield to Lennox Lewis during their primes, and if they wanna get it on again, I respect their decision. After all, who are we to judge? The only decision we have is if we want to watch it or not, personally I definitely will!

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posted Mar 7, 2008

lewis was a poor excuse for "fighter" he bottled it when anyone took the fight to him and hid behind his jab often retreating to his amatuer roots and that sort of boring fighter wont ever be remembered as a top 10 heavyweight.tyson was a true fighter in all senses and an extremely underated skillfull boxer although i am against a third fight with holyfield because the heavyweight division needs to be pushing its current fighters forward and not keep digging up past greats simply because they squandered there fortunes or because america has lost its grip on the heavyweight division.im all for the heavyweight division being capped at 17st and stick the fat lazy rest in a freak show super heavyweight division.in my opinion that would bring a lot more credibility back to the heavyweight division where the smaller heavyweights are forced to beef up to 18st plus to compete with nearly 20st fattys.tyson was the most devastating fighter of any generation who fell out of love with boxing and tarnished his legacy by fighting on through his greed for more money.

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posted Mar 10, 2008

lewis was a poor excuse for "fighter" he bottled it when anyone took the fight to him and hid behind his jab often retreating to his amatuer roots and that sort of boring fighter wont ever be remembered as a top 10 heavyweight.tyson was a true fighter in all senses and an extremely underated skillfull boxer
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he not under rated listen to all the geniuses saying he is one of the best, tyson however is also a thug and a rapist two things that mean he should be in jail not in the ring, secondly lennox lewis is a top ten heavywieght he outclasses tyson everyone with half a brain can see that, an dont tell me that tyson was old, lewis was old and cant frankly i think tyson is very very over rated

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posted Mar 11, 2008

I agree with all the people in the know and think this fight ( the word used in it's loosest possible term ) should not take place. I wont be a hypocrite and say I would'nt be intriuged to see it but let's be honest it has nothing to do with who's the best boxer. Both in their day were good fighters ( Tyson more of a brawler ) but's thats just my opinion.

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posted Mar 12, 2008

they shud get it onwinkeye tyson hopefully will knockhim out

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comment by Sean M (U1691763)

posted Mar 14, 2008

Back to the old Tyson V Lewis debate then. These two peaked at different times. Tyson was awesome to watch in the 80's and destroyed most and beat all. He was able to go 12 rounds when needed which wasn't often i.e. Bonecrusher,Mitch Green,Ruddock.
Lewis was a thinking boxer who used his height and reach to keep boxers at a distance and wore them down over a number of rounds. Lewis's defeats were caused by the opponent getting past his defense and getting to his not so good chin.
Prime Lewis V Prime Tyson. Might go a lot like
1) Lewis V Tua where Lewis wins on points using his jab and reach to keep Tyson back and wins on points.
2) Tyson finds a way past Lewis's jab and begins to unload to stop Lewis. My money would have been on this result simply because Tysons speed and instinct would have made him able to get to Lewis.

It cannot be argued that Tyson or Lewis were in a drained heavyweight division but neither had to face the type of fighters that Ali fought such as Liston, Norton, Frazier, Foreman etc.

The big names defeated by both Lewis and Tyson could be questioned over their ability at that time.
Tyson beat Berbick who was at the end of a career.
Lewis will be remembered for beating Holyfield (who was 8 years past his best) and Tyson who was completely shot and had already been beat by Holyfield, nearly lost to Frans Botha and subsequently lost to Danny Williams and Kevin McBride.
Pity we will never see the real thing only our debates and computer simulations which mean nowt

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posted Mar 16, 2008

Why does everyone always think Ali is the greatest??

Sonny Listen was a far superior and stronger boxer. Had he not fallen into the wrong management and bad debts, he would have beaten Ali hands down.

Ali never beat Sonny Listen and thats fact! Both fights where fixed!

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posted Apr 1, 2008

Superb idea .They could bill it as The Last Supper

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