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Wales v Italy ratings

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Wales maintained their 100% record under new coach Warren Gatland with a 47-8 victory over Italy on Saturday, surpassing their previous best (47-16) Six Nations win over the Azzurri.

Here's what I made of each individual player's contribution, while my colleague Pranav Soneji has rated the Italian players below.

Let us know whether you agree and what you made of their displays.


WALES RATINGS by Bryn Palmer

Lee Byrne – One loose kick aside, continues to looks the part as a Test full-back. Some thumping kicks out of defence, safe under high ball, strong last line of defence – as a tackle on Mirco Bergamasco showed – and a threat in attack, collecting one try in right corner and powering through for second. 8

Mark Jones – Busy contribution coming in off his wing, stretched his legs with a couple of runs and showed he’s getting up to speed with the blitz defence with up-in-your-face tackles and good chases. 7

Tom Shanklin – Led Wales out on the occasion of his 50th cap. A quiet first half where most of his work was in defence, but intercepted Masi’s ill-advised pass to sprint home for a try early in the second and far more evident in attack thereafter. 7

Gavin Henson – More signs that he is back to the form of 2005, exuding confidence throughout before earning a breather late on. Claimed Masi’s ill-advised chip to force an early penalty, straightened the line well, providing a good target for his forwards, and provided scoring pass for Byrne’s first try. 7

Shane Williams – A constant danger, and incisive injection of pace led to first Wales try. Moved to within one of Gareth Thomas’s Welsh record of 40 tries with first an easy run-in before showing his class and finishing ability with a stunning second. 7

Stephen Jones – Kneed in the head early on by Del Fava, but didn’t distract him as he showed a good range of passing, nailed all his seven kicks at goal, provided a scoring pass for Williams’ first try and did enough to retain his place ahead of Hook for Triple Crown tilt in Dublin. 8

Dwayne Peel – Not the commanding display he would have wanted after displacing Mike Phillips, with several poor passes in first half, although one dummy and dart might have led to try. Troubled by blurred vision and departed two minutes into second half. 5

Gethin Jenkins – Under pressure from Castrogiovanni at scrum-time in first half, but stuck at it and switched across to tight-head for final quarter. Not too many of his trademark charges in loose though. 6

Matthew Rees – Busy in the loose, and nearly scored himself in build-up to Byrne try. But missed his target at line-out to hand Castrogiovanni his try, and three other throws went awry before he was replaced after 55 minutes. 5

Rhys Thomas – Can be satisfied with his Six Nations debut, allaying the fears during the build-up about his ability to handle the Italian scrummagers. Started well and did come under pressure., but a few charges with ball in hand too. 6

Ian Gough – Got through his usual workload in the loose, making tackles and driving well, scrummaged well and took a few line-outs at the front, although missed Rees’s line-out throw for Italian try. 6

Ian Evans – A raw-boned, athletic talent who could be a Lion if he cuts out the indiscipline that saw him take out Mirco Bergamasco to concede penalty. Showed up well in loose although not yet dominant at line-out time. 6

Jonathan Thomas – Gathered re-starts, made his tackles, took a few line-outs and drove well when he was used as a ball-carrrier. Did his bit to wrest control from the Italians at the breakdown. 7

Martyn Williams – A few deft touches in first half but the Italian back row consistently slowed up Welsh ball in the contact areas. Came into it more after the interval when the game opened up. 6

Ryan Jones – Constantly put his shoulder into it with a series of drives into the heart of the Italian defence, making ground for his side and leading from the front. Kept everyone calm when the visitors were briefly in the ascendancy, and now has a Triple Crown on his mind in his first season as captain. 7


Replacements:

Mike Phillips – On three minutes into second half and instant scything break showed his class only to botch the final pass to Mark Jones. Good kicking game and fizzing passes, may have earned starting spot for Dublin. 7

Huw Bennett – Came on for Rees after 55 minutes and helped shored up the Welsh line-out. 6

James Hook – Sent on with the game in the bag and banged over a couple of conversions, taking him past Phil Bennett in the Wales points-scoring list.

Duncan Jones – On for final 13 minutes to join in the late rout.

Deiniol Jones – A rare outing for the Cardiff Blue, stretching his legs in the final quarter.

Sonny Parker – Made an impact after replacing Henson, a deft offload sending Shane Williams away for his second try.

Gareth Delve – A late replacement for Martyn Williams, but will have to settle for more bench duty.

ITALY RATINGS by Pranav Soneji

Andrea Marcato - He may lack big-match experience, but the 24-year-old showed glimpses of his exciting talent running from full-back - his best moment was a wonderful 20m line break on 36 minutes - and at fly-half when Masi was replaced on 52 minutes. But his place-kicking radar needs a fine tune after hitting the woodwork twice in the first half. One for the future though. 7

Alberto Sgarbi - Like the majority of his team-mates, defended well in the first half but could do nothing to quell opposite number Shane Williams after the interval. 6

Gonzalo Canale - Somehow contrived to miss the simplest of passes he will ever receive five metres from Wales tryline after a brilliant backline move involving Masi and Galon, a mistake which provoked a very southern European reaction from South African coach Nick Mallett. 5

Mirco Bergamasco - Earned Italy their second penalty with a cute chip - only to be taken out by a crass shoulder barge from Ian Evans. The centre has an engine as reliable as a Ferrari's, offering support as a runner and consistently making tackles. Found himself in the sin-bin for failing to roll away at the tackle during Wales' second-half purple patch. 6

Ezio Galon - Cut the Wales defence to shreds on 21 minutes with a brilliantly angled run, only to see his text-book offload fumbled by Canale with the tryline looming. Showed good awareness in attack when he was given the chance to run at Mark Jones, which wasn't often. 7

Andrea Masi - Gifted Wales their second penalty when he opted to chip his defender deep in his 22 rather than welly the ball to Newport. Things went from bad to worse at the start of the second half when Tom Shanklin intercepted his floated pass to Sgarbi for Wales' third try. 5

Simon Picone - His distribution wasn't exactly electric, he lacks the passes that unlock international defences and rarely made any breaks around the breakdown, unlike his opposite opponents Dwayne Peel and Mike Phillips. 5

Salvatore Perugini - Imposed his authority alongside Castrogiovanni in the front row in the first half, giving Rhys Thomas a proper working over. Came off on 50 minutes. 7
Leonardo Ghiraldini - Generally found his jumper with his line-out throws, although a few wayward efforts did find their way into Welsh hands. 6

Martin Castrogiovanni - Took his try brilliantly - first snaffling Matthew Rees' overthrown line-out before bundling off Lee Byrne and Dwayne Peel to the line. Provided his typically robust, uncompromising style of scrummaging which Gethin Jenkins struggled to contain. 8

Santiago Dellape - Gave Wales their first penalty with indiscipline at the breakdown on four minutes, but Came off on 50 minutes. 6

Carlo Antonio Del Fava - Got away with a not-so-subtle knee to Stephen Jones' head in the first five minutes, but the Ulster captain is a formidable unit around the pitch. Was at the centre of Italy's best work at the breakdown. 7

Josh Sole - Didn't do anything spectacular, ensured he contributed his fair share of tackles before he was substituted by Alessandro Zanni during the second half.

Mauro Bergamasco - The marauding flanker with the luxuriant locks is always at the heart of Italy's best work, but he could do nothing to prevent Wales from turning on the style in the second-half. 6

Sergio Parisse - Didn't have quite the same impact as he had against England, but the Stade Francais number 8 is a class act, he really doesn't deserve to be on the losing side with his performances. 7

REPLACEMENTS:

Alessandro Zanni - Probably won't thank his coach for introducing him for Josh Sole when Wales were completely bossing the second half. 6

Marco Bortolami - The return of the second row for Santiago Dellape will give coach Mallett an enormous fillip, although the classy Gloucester star could do nothing to reverse his side's second-half slide. 6

Paulo Buso - Looked lively when he came on for Andrea Masi, filling in for Mercato at full-back. 7

Andrea Lo Cicero - The veteran prop is a solid scrummager, but the Italian set-piece was on its heels when he came on for Salvatore Perugini in the second half. 5

Pietro Travagli - The replacement scrum-half gave away the most needless penalty of the Six Nations when he ran a full 30 yards at full pelt to push Mike Phillips deep inside Welsh territory for absolutely no reason. 3




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posted Feb 25, 2008

Some silly comments on here by one-eyed Ospreys fans, I'm afraid.

First - points where I agree with them - Shane deserved at least an 8 for his performance - his last try was superb. Byrne was also excellent, and fully deserved MoM. Now for disagreement - Peel has been criticised (rightly on his performance), but he was obviously hampered by a knock early on. He should have been taken off sooner. I'd still choose a fully fit Peel before Phillips, though. Why? Because Phillips is still playing schoolboy rugby - and only an idiot could blame Mark Jones for the failure to score, when he'd have walked it if Phillips had passed to him 5 yards earlier. He is too greedy, and harldy ever looks for his support. In addition, it is only a matter of time before he picks up a yellow (or red) card - he has been lucky, so far...
No. 10 is more difficult - on Saturday's performance I'd take Stevo, who didn't put a foot wrong for 65 minutes - but Hook is more elusive. I'd be happy with either, but Jones has the experience to cope.

TH prop - has to be Adam Jones, though Rhys Thomas did OK.

Finally - to show that I am NOT one-eyed Scarlet - hooker has to be Bennett. Matt Rees is a good player, but he spoiled his chance by throwing in so badly.

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posted Feb 25, 2008

Any reason why Josh Sole doesn't get a rating?

Or for that matter, why only some of the Wales players get ratings?



Personally, I thought a 39 point difference flattered Wales slightly, better sides would have put a lot more pressure on Wales and kept the scores closer.


I thought all the missed yellow cards evened themselves out, (Del Flava and Evans should both have been binned), and for what it's worth, I think Mike Phillips is playing better than Dwayne Peel at present.

N.B. I'm English.

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posted Feb 25, 2008

I think it's a bit unfair to criticise Dwayne Peel for his performance for two reasons.
1. He'd clearly taken a knock and if he had blurred vision, is it any wonder his passes weren't going exactly where they should?
2. In the first half NOBODY had a very good game for Wales with the exception of Shane and Lee Byrne. The Italian forwards were all over the place in the rucks making it difficult for Peel to get to the ball and get it out easily. At one point he was digging for about 10 seconds to get the ball. In the second half the forwards were rucking over the ball and clearing out much better so Phillips had a much easier time - who knows what Peel could have done in that situation?

Generally, I think Peel is a much better player and suits the way we play much better. Phillips is too selfish and needs to decide if he's a SH or a back row, three or four times on Saturday Shane and Martin Williams had to play SH as Phillips was at the bottom of a ruck when he didn't need to be - he needs to keep his discipline from a positional point of view as well as a temperament one. Having said that Peel isn't at the top of his game at the moment for whatever reason.I like both players and I'm glad I don't have to choose. It's a great postion for Gatland to be in to have to pick between the two, not that many years ago we didn't have any option other than Peel. Same with fly half - even in the Grand Slam year if SJ had got injured we'd have been finished - but now we're discussing whether he's good enough. It's all so much more positive.

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posted Feb 25, 2008

I think it's evident that the two raters in the article have used different frames of reference. On average, Mr Palmer rates Wales at 6.5 a man, while Mr Soneji rates the Italians at 6.0. Seems to me that there was a bigger difference between the sides than that, although 47-8 was a bit hard on Italy. And it's definitely harsh to mark Ian Gough down for missing Rees' throw, Mr Palmer - especially when you have marked Rees down as well for throwing it badly!
P.S. Not sure if Gav should lose a point or gain a point for looking like Seve Ballasteros. I mean, is it post-ironic, or just a style blooper...?

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posted Feb 25, 2008

What utter nonsense about Peel and Phillips here so far! Mike Phillips has been on better form than Peel for the last year. He should be in the side from the start every game. Peel had a poor half Phillips was far better at getting quick ball when he came on. Peel had his chance but will not start against either Ireland or France. In fact rather than blame himself, he's seen fit to make excuses for a very poor effort. If he had taken a bump to the head which was affecting his vision, he should have left the field far sooner.

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posted Feb 25, 2008

Peel hasn't played well for 2 years and mark jones well what does he offer?
seriously? he can run fast but he can't kick isnt great under the high ball and doesn't have a rugby brain
yes phillips should have passed sooner but jones was unable to offload the ball in the tackle to one of three welsh support players , something the scarlets on here seem to have ignored

ROg loves the cross kick , id be happier to see jamie roberts out there

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posted Feb 26, 2008

Ieuan Evans said on sunday night that Henson, S Jones and Shanklin were the people in the backline who laid a solid foundation for ppl like Shane Williams to win games. Personally I think that when Henson was at his blistering best (2004/5 kind of form) he could win games all by himself. Hopefully all these solid performances by Henson recently will lead to game winning performances not too far from now, it would be nice if they came against Ireland and France.

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posted Feb 26, 2008

think it's a bit unfair to criticise Dwayne Peel for his performance for two reasons.
1. He'd clearly taken a knock and if he had blurred vision, is it any wonder his passes weren't going exactly where they should?
he should have come of then, its not the dwayne peel show and if he knew he couldnt see where he was passing he should have been professional enough to say so and get subbed

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posted Feb 26, 2008

Dwayne Peel does not give silly penalties away and he actually offloads the ball ,these are the scrum halfs main duties,Mike phillips I will wait and see !!

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posted Feb 26, 2008

"if he knew he couldnt see where he was passing he should have been professional enough to say so and get subbed"

From what Graham Thomas, as touchline reporter, said on saturday the management team knew about it from half way through the first half and were encouraging him to stay out there to see if it improved.

After what Shaun Edwards was saying before the game that even if you're injured you should get up and get back in the line unless you can't stand up can you blame Peel for trying to do just that?

You also have to ask why they wanted him to stay on if they don't believe he's a better player than Mike Phillips. If they didn't think Phillips was going to weaken the team they would have brought him on straight away instead of asking Peel to carry on for another 20+ minutes.

I agree that Peel's not being playing at his best recently but I still think that, at the moment, he's as good as Phillips but doesn't give away stupid penalties so I'd pick him.

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