Browse: Rugby union England v Wales ratingsby Bryn Palmer - BBC Sport (U1647836) 02 February 2008 ![]() Wales ended 20 years of miserable failure at Twickenham with a stunning second-half performance to upset World Cup finalists England in an enthralling Six Nations clash on Saturday. Latest 10 commentsRead members' comments or add your own
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sabrejet (U5439964) posted Feb 7, 2008 Imagine this senario. England vs Australia in Sydney. For much of the first half England misfire, turn-over the ball and the Aussies start to build up a decent lead. Come the second half the Aussies begin to lose control of the game. England begin to exert pressure and capitalise upon the Aussies' errors and soon the scores are level. Then, in the last quarter England turn the screw, score a couple of quick tries and win the game by a respectable margin. Question: How would the English fans react? Answer: Just like the Welsh! So, what's the problem?
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ieuanmawr (U11012383) posted Feb 7, 2008 "Worried or very worried?" said John Inverdale with glee to Jonathan Davies on Saturday, echoing the 1999 half time discussion. The whole English media response has been one of curmudgeonly, parochial navel gazing ignoring the contribution of Wales in winning the game. You must remember that rugby dominates popular culture in Wales in a way that is alien to the English and success at the game is vital, despite this the Welsh response has been one of joy and glee, but recognising a work in progress (seen Scrum V, BBC Wales on Sunday night?). A man who is tired of beating England is tired of life so give us a break, get over it and move on (though hold your breath and beware Italy).
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tripphipp (U11024276) posted Feb 9, 2008 I dont know, I hear all this talk about how England let thamselves down and they 'lost' to to wales in the second half, but we can easily reverse the perspective. Wales made a fair amount of running early in the th first half, and 'let', England into the 1st half with an alarming amount of turnover. Wales only had itself to blame for a poor 1st half, and if it had not turned over half the possesion that it did. England would have been lucky to be in front at half time. Talk of how England let Wales gain a flukey win is a blinkered approach, and simply ignores the facts, Wales have beaten England 3 times out of the last 4 encounters. England fans belive they are a better side, but the actual results speak differently. Wales let England into the 1st half andstomped them out of the 2nd
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MichaelCarrick - England'sNumber1 (U3194507) posted Feb 9, 2008 Heres 20 words for you: you were LUCKY. All your points were delivered on a silver platter by inept England. Us Scots will stuff you!
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Manly Bulge (U10988907) posted Feb 9, 2008 Here we go, another win for wales and the knives are out already, and what are we hearing this week........ Wales were lucky again, never a try, scotland playing badly lost the game!!!
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Manly Bulge (U10988907) posted Feb 9, 2008 what do you think now, how inept were england, do you think they were as bad as the scottich today, because i dont think so.
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sabrejet (U5439964) posted Feb 9, 2008 All this "never a try!" nonsense is extremely irritating! There were four match officials. The fourth official is better qualified than any self-styled pundits to make a judgement. Same applies to any other major sport such as premiership football or tennis etc. How often on MOTD do the analysts, with the benefits of technology "prove" that player 'X' was offside, etc., etc., hindsight being the exact science it is! The try was awarded. End of story. Would Scotland..or England fans be bleating if THEY had had the rub of the green in such circs? I think not! For what it's worth, I think it WAS a try...just...but it could have gone either way. That said, Wales would've won without it anyway.
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rugger-reg (U11006412) posted Feb 12, 2008 There isn't a problem sabrejet. I never said there was; the context being my response to wondertaff's begrudging comments about the Enland fans.
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rugger-reg (U11006412) posted Feb 12, 2008 Only just had chance to catch up on your posting last week, sorry tripphip. You provide a [Welsh] rose tinted spectacle review of the 1st half. England were vastly better than Wales in that period and should have been ahead by significantly more points than they were. However, and as I said previously, Wales were simply superb in the 2nd half. Comment on this article
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