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Why England didn't appoint Edwards

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by Simon Austin (U1645949) 31 January 2008
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The sight of Shaun Edwards sitting on the Wales bench at Twickenham on Saturday will cause great unease for many England followers, including legends Matt Dawson and Lawrence Dallaglio.

The duo have witnessed Edwards's work at close quarters and regard him as one of the finest coaches in the game.

They can't understand why the Rugby Football Union failed to offer Edwards a role in Brian Ashton's senior coaching team.

Dawson describes Edwards, a proud Englishman, as "possibly the best rugby coach in the world" and labels England's failure to land him as "an absolute crime".

Dallaglio agrees that Edwards would be "a huge asset for England" and, with unusual understatement, says it will be "disappointing" to see him coach Wales.

Yet, privately, the RFU believes its hands were tied on the matter.

A Premier Rugby rule, agreed by the clubs two seasons ago, precludes a club coach from working part-time for the RFU.

The rationale was that such a scenario would enable a coach to gain unfair access to other clubs’ players.

Yet the rule doesn’t prevent Premiership coaches from working with other international sides.

This was quite an oversight and one that Premier Rugby plans to address, by extending the rule to cover all international sides.

And this is where Wales came in.

Yet, ironically, Premier Rugby claims it would have waived its rule and allowed Edwards to work with England... had such a request ever been made my the RFU.

Indeed, PRL did agree to waive the rule so that Edwards could work with the Saxons, England’s second-string side.

Edwards initially seemed keen on the Saxons job, before disagreements over the number of support staff he would be allowed led to the job offer being withdrawn by elite director of rugby Rob Andrew.

The RFU approached Edwards about becoming England’s defence coach two years’ ago, when Andy Robinson was head coach.

Yet Edwards felt unable to take on the role at that time and it was subsequently offered to the current incumbent, Mike Ford, instead.

The focus is now back on Edwards following his recent move across the border.

And, were Wales to unexpectedly triumph at Twickenham on Saturday, the question on the lips of many England fans will be “how did we let him get away?”




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posted Feb 1, 2008

It is not a matter about Shaun Edwards class, he dedicated himself physically and mentaly to a sport that he is pasionate about. Those underestimate him, do so at their own cost. He has no need prove himself. I believe true lovers of rugby will admire his craft wherever he is given the opportunity to apply it. The long term advantage for England (hopefully) is that he can hone his international coaching skills with Gatland to the standard he has set himself. I hope that Shaun will be the successor to Brian Ashton. As a passionate follower of rugby I am looking forward to the duel this weekend. John Ireland

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posted Feb 1, 2008

I think it's great that Wales have signed Edwards, BUT only in the short term. I feel the side that will benefit the most long term, is England and certainly for the 2011 RWC.
Come to Wales - the home of the Modern International Rugby Coach Apprenticeship!!!

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posted Feb 1, 2008

How ironic that Brian Ashton is from Leigh, whose greatest sporting rivals are Wigan, where Edwards was raised.

Lobbie gobbler vs pie eater

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posted Feb 1, 2008

Sonic quake are you talking about league or union. St Helen's are Wigan RL's biggest rivals.

Also Edwards captained England schoolboys at Union and League

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posted Feb 1, 2008

Has the need for Rugby League coaches to teach defence had its Day? I.e has our game moved on, the breakdown has spead up and defences now need to take the blitz defence tactic. Rugby league drift defence is not only old hat, but not always relevant. I'm sure there are as good coaches on less Dosh who know the game of professional rugby union.

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posted Feb 1, 2008

Wales are pretty much in a win win situation tomorrow - if they win then it would be a huge upset and stand them in good stead for the future - I would also hope that Ashton would fall on his sword because that result would be quite unacceptible. If Wales lose, well, so what - it's a new regime and England are at home. If England win by sticking the ball up their jumper then again, so what, what have we learned? What would that tell us about BA's vision.

I hope that tomorrow gives us at least the barest glimpse of a brighter future for England otherwise I fear that we will be in the same position just prior to the next WC as we were for the last one.

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posted Feb 1, 2008

what does rob andrew do apart from make massive blunders and then try to justify himself when it is impossible to do so..........

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posted Feb 1, 2008

As a fellow Wiganer who followed Shaun Edwards' playing career from the start he is the consummate pofessional with total commitment to his cause. Edwars away from the England cause is unacceptable to me. What a sad, hopefully temporary, loss.
Mike Higham

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posted Feb 1, 2008

There's a lot of fuss about proud 'Englishman' Shaun Edwards being let go by England, but I'm sure when he was playing rugby league, he actually chose to represent Ireland rather than England, so it seems he's not so English as many people think (including a lot of commentators, who should know their facts rather better.)

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posted Feb 1, 2008

How typical of the RFU management, even if it does come from a 'young gun' like Rob Andrew. To just say they are sticking with the management team as thanks for getting them to the Final in Paris is short sightedness in the extreme - surely the addition of a world renowned defence coach like Edwards would at least show some progression and not as usual be stuck in the past.

Come on Wales.

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