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Howard Winstone

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Wednesday, 23 jan marks the 40th anniversary of the night that Howard Winstone finally achieved his dream of becoming world champion.

He beat Mitsunori Seki of Japan - Seki was stopped in the 9th round because of a cut to his eye.
I thought I'd mark the occasion with a quick tribute to the man and see if you had any comments/memories of the night.


Winstone had lost 3 previous challenges for the world featherweight crown; all three to Vincente Saldivar.
The first in 1965 was a narrow points defeat.

The 2nd took place at Ninian Park, Cardiff in 1967 and referee Wally Thom was one of few who thought the mexican had won.

Four months later in Mexico City Winstone lost for a third time to the future hall of fame member - his corner threw in the towel in the 12th.

Saldivar temporarily retired and Winstone was matched up against Seki.

Despite losing the title in his only defence, against Jose Legra just 6 months later, he is still a sporting hero in Wales.

He did it all despite having lost the tips of three fingers on his right hand in a machine accident as a teenager.

The last welsh world champion before that was Jimmy Wilde (World Flyweight Champion 1916-1923) and it took until Steve Robinson won his WBO Featherweight title in 1993 before there was another one.

Is Winstone worthy of being called a sporting great? Were you at any of his title fights?

there's more info on Howard here news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/box...

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posted Jan 23, 2008

Hello, cheers for the comments and the abuse!
T_J, I agree with much of what you say about trying to encourage more people to get involved in 606.
But I thought it'd be interesting to get some thoughts on whether Winstone is a legend or whether he's overrated as this bloke thinks...
http://www.britishboxing.net/news_2881-The-most-over-rated-British-boxers-in-history.html

Anjawnaymiz, I got very, very, very lucky and stumbled into the job really! Did a journalism course at Cardiff Uni and applied for a job at the Beeb after that.

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posted Jan 23, 2008

cheers steffan- how long was the journalism course for?

any jobs going at your place at the moment? or is there a contact that might be able to put me in good steed?

your help would be much appreciated.
cheers!
bubbly

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posted Jan 23, 2008

Steffan, sorry mate, i was having a bit of a rant yesterday. I dont think he's overated as i said before, he did a lot for wales. think he was the first welshman in 40 years to hold the longsdale belt.
Just think there are articles which really should be the managers pick as there more relevant, i.e calzaghe-hopkins or jones-tito report.

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posted Jan 23, 2008

i feel very honoured as a schoolboy to have seen howard winstone box.
i remember seeing live on the tele for some of his fights.
ask any respected boxing journalist who's around today if he saw howard box and what he thought of him.
colin hart of the sun always said that prince hamed would have never been able to have landed a glove on howard at his best. that for me sums it all up.
if i was welsh, but i'm not, i would be so proud that my country of some 3 million people or whatever it is produced a great boxer like howard.
i remain proud that howard was british, but of course welsh first.
those who never had the privilege of seeing howard box missed a true master of his art at work.
RIP great man.

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posted Jan 23, 2008

i can understand comments about old fighters that nobody remembers what about ali, louis.boxing is about remembering back to old fights be it 2years 40 years. i never saw howard fight live but he always gave his best.wales have had some very good boxers curvis dower farr erskine of who alis trainer dundee said he was the best heavyweight he had seen but sadly joe cut and did nt have a punch. this will still carry on from generation to generation favouritse who you remember from your youth till you get old like me.this is my first comment, and no body slaggef off any boxer

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Joe Erskine gave up without a fight against Nino Valdes so was not in the same class as the other very good Welsh fighters you have named.

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posted Jan 26, 2008

I don't mean to be funny but you should check your spelling before requesting a jounalism job. 'Stead' not 'steed', unless of course you meant something that is lost on me...

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posted Jan 27, 2008

fair comment but one round isnt a give up valdes was really world class at one point thanks for comment

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posted Jan 28, 2008

The injury to Howard Winstone's right hand is one of the most intriguing "what might have beens" in boxing. Not quite up there with Salvador Sanchez's car crash or a non-ducked Aaron Pryor, but definitely would have changed history.

Winstone had to rely on his left hand, and what a left hand he had, one of the great jabs of all time, only Ken Buchanan would compete for best British jab. But this caused problems when he came up against southpaws like Salvidar, as it negated his best shots. The second fight was close, but Salvidar was a great worker, throwing good, if not murderous, shots throughout. And it was hardly a homer decision in Wales.

A two-handed Winstone would have beaten him, though, I reckon. In today's environment, a prospect like that wouldn't have to worry about the sort of work where you could lose fingers, it's a different world. Am I right in thinking Johnny Owen still had a factory job while challenging for the European title?

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posted Feb 1, 2008

A two handed Howard would have been unbeatable

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