posted Jan 21, 2008

people are undermining McLaren because of the 2007 season and what happened.
I think they have realistic chances.
Lewis will challenge for sure, Im not so sure about Heikki
At Ferrari Kimi will challenge and Massa probably won't. To be honest its in the balance but we'll just have to wait until Australia and find out, I think everyone will be suprised.

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posted Jan 21, 2008

"At Ferrari Kimi will challenge and Massa probably won't."

Until Team Ferrari screwed up Massa's chances, for much of the 2007 season he had a good opportunity to take the WDC.

KR's form came good in the latter half of 2007, and he didn't have the sort of luck with his car that FM had. In part, I suspect that luck comes from having more of the team's focus due to being paid more. So Massa has the tougher job to do, although we all know the team is really focused on the constructor's title.

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posted Jan 21, 2008

the new Mclaren is a copy of the Ferrari and the new Ferrari is the greatest car of the 2008 WCC.

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posted Jan 21, 2008

Ferrari can cheat and get away with it so they have a head start already.They can also get one of their people to pass info to McLaren and thereby get McLaren thrown out and fined.Ferrari are also the favourite team of all the F1 big-wigs such as Wee Bernie and co.
I hope McLaren stuff them this season.

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posted Jan 21, 2008

Ferrari can cheat???? Will people let all this rest in the end what happened, happened but when Mclaren were found guilty the championship was lucky the drivers championship was left in tact one for Ecclestone I think, anyway I think Ferrari might just be too strong for everyone this season, but I expect for some reason Alonso to keep eveyone honest, he always finds a way.

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posted Jan 22, 2008

>But they BOTH have Chapman struts, pinched from Lotus!
A point well made Mr Chilli.
And all of these cars are ultimately based on the McLaren MP4/2 of the early eighties. That includes Ferrari, whose first CF tub bore an uncanny resemblance to tht of McLaren's.
I wonder how much Ferrari owe Mclaren in development costs?

MMMmm let me see - absolutely nothing! Chapman struts are a variant of the McPherson strut! I think you will find that the design originated in Italy..

Quote "The MacPherson strut is a type of car suspension system widely used in modern vehicles, named after Earl S. MacPherson who developed the design. Though named for him, it was actually invented by an engineer named Fornaca at FIAT in the mid-1920s"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacPherson_strut

Wonder where all the innovation really comes from and where it end's up?

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posted Jan 22, 2008

F1 cars use multi link suspesion systems, which are nothing like Mac PHerson struts!
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/understanding_the_sport/5285.html

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posted Jan 22, 2008

25Moulin

My post was refering to Castor's post earlier and nothing to do with the suspension setup on current F1 cars.

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posted Jan 29, 2008

I think it is an excellent idea that McLaren will be running a silver Ferrari this year. Ron Dennis needs a leg up and McLaren should take help wherever they can get it, by fair means or foul.
Nothing wrong with that in McLarens book.

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posted Mar 9, 2008

It all depend on what underhand tactics Ferrari has up it's sleeve this year. It seems to be one rule for Ferrari and another for the rest of the teams. There does not seem to be any impartiality in the FIA. It is for a revamp of the FIA, for the good of F1.
Lets hope Mclaren have a good season and prove it's critics wrong. As for Ferrari, well a leopard navers changes it spots.

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