posted Jan 14, 2008

Rabbitoh, yes and his work with Mandela was amazing.

Ethan, we know and were unimpressed with him. The difference here is that he accepted it and took the ban instead of burning donkeys and cutting off fingers.

Shishir - please review footage of Dhoni in England. More grass than a Rasta convention.

Thanks Saluter - all good points - it seems there is more than only the angelic traits in some other cricket teams...

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posted Jan 14, 2008

viv - maybe without the money (dirty and clean) that India brings to the sport then it might bring less pressure, desperation and less match-fixing. Maybe the ICC would be better to let the ICL go ahead and let the men play the sport and get rid of these pampered lazy cricketers who hide behind their board? (that means India if you haven't clicked yet)

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posted Jan 14, 2008

Ricky Ponting might have realized that he must be fair and clean in his approch, as people of cricket world will never accept cheating or negative attitude at all. He must have passed all articles which was publised since last week.

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posted Jan 14, 2008

muk - what do you think the English had to say about India? or what would Pakistan say? Repeated posts by Indian fans say that Aussies are cheats and racist and should not complain about Singh's comments because of this - ie claiming the high ground. People like your mate Viv...

We are saying here, that if you are racist - accept your punishment - you break a rule, you pay the price, simple. Australians have made this mistake, most of us do not like racism and want rid of it.

Singh has been warned about racism, Indian fans have been warned about racism and all decent human beings do not tolerate it. If he has again been racist then he should be banned. One-eyed belief that 1 billion Indians are above it like your BCCI chairman thinks is ridiculous.

Australians were never racist to Murali. I would like to know how you justify saying this?

Maybe the rules should be changed around sledging - how would you change them? To accept racism? to accept anti-religious comments?

Why get rid of it? Almost all sports have it, somehow people seem to think Cricket is above it, but mostly because people like Sreesanth, Singh and yes, maybe even Symonds take it too far and they should be controlled by their captains and the umpire.

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posted Jan 14, 2008

Thankfully in about 24hrs
we will have cricket to talk about instead of all this crap.

Cheers and good luck to all

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posted Jan 14, 2008

cheery
i am not going to get into this who did this who did that. uyes if you want proof jayasuriya is quoted in srilanka that glenn mcgrath called him a black m***key. now we all know the controversy with murali his throwing action and darrel hair. what happened in australian grounds. now i have to go back and find the weblinks.
the point i am trying to make is if we dig the past i am sure the skeletons are bound to fall on either side.
australian cricket is synonymous with sledging.
i don't see the label applied to english,south african, west indian teams. the perception is reality in this case.
now we can all argue back and forth and call each other cheats and racists.
at the end of the day every fan on either side wants a good clean match.
i cannot justify in this day and age of political correctness to have sledging. either you have sledging and let it be free for all or have none. the point i made was where do you draw the line as offensive remark. although a cricketer in the fit of emotion and adrenaline is bound to say something that maybe termed racist based on the ethnicity of the person. while monkey may not offensive to an indian it may be to a black person. bastard may not offensive to an australian it maybe to an indian.
coolie maybe offensive to a trindadian of indian origin...i mean do you expect the cricketers to carry a dictionary of waht is an acceptable form of sledging. lets be practical.
i don't live in australia, so i am not familiar with aussie sports. i live in america here i can tell you. trash talking happens in american sports. but if it goes beyond a certain level the refs give a tech in the case of NBA , 15 yds penalty in american football.
keep something like that, give 4-6 runpenalty for tauting in thefield. the second or third offence gets an ejection from the game.
i cannot accept this whole sledging as some sort acceptable behaviour. i am sure every test playin nation will be for the ban of sledging except the aussies.
australians were never racist to murali...really its funny along the lines of our sharad pawar claiming no indians are racist.
here is waht i would also suggest, incorporate technology a la tennis, make a challenge system. keep it clean. no pressure on umpires, opposing captains,wicket keeper, catcher, batsman.
if someone do not liek the call let them call for a replay.
almost all sports i watch have some sort of challenge system.
cricket is pathetic in that regard. we would not be howling at each other if we had one.
let me also point to the future implications of harbhajan ruling. if harbhajan said it and there is proof then i am all for him getting banned. but if he is punished because what happend in India then that is wrong. now who is to say if australia travels to subcontinent and people brought same racism charge and there is no evidence that the aussie involved said it, would you be willing to accept the punishment because 3-4 people on the field complained about it.
Mike Proctor's punishment is just listening to the accusers and handing out a verdict.
if the justice system operated ,using the same logic i am telling you a lot of men would behind bars for sexual harrasment. because all it takes is a women to just accuse someone of saying something sexual to them.
let harbhajan be a known offender, but that is no excuse to ban him without proof. even known felons and repeat offenders in criminal cases are convicted with proof. my question is where is the proof. did the umpires heard anything. i sure would like to see the testimony in front of mike proctor before i call someone a racist.
it does not take a lot for the shoe to be on the other foot.

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posted Jan 15, 2008

Muk - some of what you are saying is allright, but a terrible example is the sexual harassment - do you have any idea how many girls are raped or abused and due to a lack of evidence (one word vs the other) never sees the offender brought to justice? Quite disgusting this analogy, please do not use it again.

If it was an Aussie and 3-4 people accused them and they had said something, they would put their hand up and admit it. Like Hogg did - there was no denial - they would accept the word of others, not hide behind technology - this is the difference. Australians may not claim a high sense of honour or manners, but are man enough to admit their shortcomings aka ashes 2005 'we were not good enough' even if umpiring decisions ultimately cost them the 2nd test and maybe the series. We didn't threaten to boycott the tour as things were going badly.

Sledging should not be banned, but if players aka Symonds, Singh, Sreesanth are going to far, they should be penalised - this is up to their captains and officials to sort out.

Murali v Hair - race? Why? Why play the race card here? A unique action, which in someone's opinion looks like chucking. I agree with the skeletons - but there are so many fans here who cannot accept any wrongdoing on India's part - constantly accuse Aussies of cheating, but do not look in their own backyard. We accept both teams make dubious claims etc - why not Indian fans accepting this as well? We bring these issues up to point this out.

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posted Jan 15, 2008

What Indians wanted they have proved now again back to cricket but suerly all incidents will be remembered for years no matter who was right or wrong,.

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posted Jan 15, 2008

Many many thanks to Austalia to entertain viewrs and well played jokes to world cricket.

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posted Jan 15, 2008

and well played to India who have proven once and for all the ICC cannot handle an adverse situation and that the BCCI are a lynch mob with a hair-trigger - yeeee hah!

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