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Pistorius faces Olympic rejection

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Oscar Pistorious

What do you make of the news that Paralympic star Oscar Pistorius has failed in his bid to compete at next year's Olympic Games in Beijing?

The 400 metre star has had scientific analysis of his prosthetic limbs and it has been judged that they give him an unfair advantage over able-bodied opponents.

Professor Peter Bruggemann observed the tests and told German newspaper Die Welt that the runner has a "considerable advantage".

What do you think? Should Pistorious be allowed to compete against able-bodied athletes in Beijing?

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posted Jan 17, 2008

For people who have said he isnt using his legs might want to go look in a mirror. If it was the case of a wheelchair athlete they arent using their legs as such. Oscar still has the top half you know the important bit because without the top you cant have the bottom. If you dont think he is using his legs how about you cut the top bit of urs off and we'll see how you get on!!

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posted Jan 19, 2008

noted in posts in the week that i hadn't heard any top athletes voicing opinions for/against oscar racing in able-bodied events, but just found this article on news24.com quoting tyson gay:

http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/More_Sport/0,,2-9-32_2254057,00.html

excerpts from TG:
"If they (Pistorius and other paralympic athletes) want to go out there and compete just like we do and put their heart in to it, I see no problem with it whatsoever," Gay said during a teleconference announcing his selection as US Olympic Committee sportsman of the year.

"It would be great," Gay, the world 100 and 200m champion, said . "I think he would be motivating a lot of other people."
"It would be up to him," Gay said. "I don't really go out looking for a competitive race, but if he is happy being in a race with me, I think it would be great."

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Everyone is saying about the 25% less energy it takes to maintain the top speed but no one has written that it takes 110 times more effort to get to that top speed.
This is why he pulls away from the rest of the runners at the end of the race; when he finally reaches his top speed, the other athletes have already peaked and are beginning to slow down.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.03/blade.html

When Oscar ran in Sheffield (was it?) with the able-bodied runners, and came 5th, he had the same blades. Now he's under a second off qualifying for the Olympics. Surely this shows that he has become a better athlete.

With his sponsor from Ossur and Nike he has the financial ability to train full time, the same as all able-bodied Olympic athletes. His training doesn't differ to that of an able-bodied athlete and he trains with 12 of the South African sprinting team; he's the only amputee.


I don't think he's trying to con people into thinking that he's not at an advantage.
I've learnt loads about prosthetics at college and I do believe that with the energy it takes to get those Cheetahs up to top speed, he's at no advantage what so ever. I know there's controversy about the weight, hight and 'spring' of the blades but if they're not made from carbon fibre then what do you expect them to be made from? Wood?

It's unfair to think that using a prosthetic is the same as cheating and is seen as extra equipment but you can't really have paralympic athletes running on their stumps. It's ludicrous to compare prosthetics with the use jet packs, roller skates, whatever.

However, I can understand that he is at an advantage over single-amputee athletes who don't have the balance he has, ie he has two light legs, they have one and have to adjust to having one light, rigid leg and one heavier leg with the extra ankle reach.

So really, it's the Paralympics he shouldn't be allowed to compete in as he is at an advantage there, and he should be put into the Olympics.

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posted Jan 29, 2008

There is one easy way to find out. Take an abled bodied athlete and give him a pair of blades similar to pretorius's. I'm sure that they could be modifiedto run down the calf and bend under the foot. Then review THAt athletes performance.

I would be willing to bet that over 400m they give him an advantage via the springiness. Over 200m they likely do not, over 1500m it would be a big advantage.

Either way it means that his aids orffer a variable unavailable to other athletes in the class, so it will be an advantage one way or another. If he failed at 400m what would thre be to stop him moving upt o 1500 and bouncing along to a win.

Sorry as much as I love the guys bravery and determination he just cannot be allowed to compete. It's not descrimination, it's classification (the same as the paralympics actually use)

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posted Jan 29, 2008

perhaps we should be looking at the possibility of his blades giving him an unfair advantage over other disabled athletes which is why he is so much better than all his competitors and feels the need to undermine paralympic sport by saying that competition isn't good enough. Why not concentrate on getting other disabled kids/teenagers into disability sport to give him a run for his money? That's what he should be promoting.

He says that he is doing this for the benefit of other disabled athletes. Really? What, because all the other 100m runners in the paralympics will then be able to run against able bodies athltes too. No, they will not. Unfortunately it is just a fact of life. His legs are not the same as an able bodied athlete and therefore they are different classifications.

Saying all of this though, there are some sports which could allow disabled athletes into the game - such as Archery.

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posted Feb 13, 2008

Good luck Oscar! I hope we can see him running in Beijing this Summer.

some of the comments on here are unbelievably intollerant. what would you be thinking if you were him?

if it gives him that much of an advantage, then why don't all of the able bodied athletes cut off their legs and use them? i'm sure that you wouldn't find any other athletes moaning about him using them, if they do then they should stop to think what they are moaning about, somebody who has to live without full working legs day in day out.

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posted Feb 13, 2008

he's not got human body parts below the stumps so I'm afraid thats the reality

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posted Jun 25, 2008

The reason most athletes cheat by taking steroids is to help their muscles recover from injury or excess workload as is experienced by any athlete trying to reach an Olympic standard.
Oscar has no such problem and, much as I admire his tenacity and the general "will" of the disabled who try to beat their odds, Oscar will never suffer a pulled calf muscle: that is the biggest advantage an Olympic sprinter could be given. It is tough but fair to exclude him.

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posted Jun 25, 2008

What?

If he had false teeth he wouldn't suffer toothache.

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posted Jun 25, 2008

His gums might hurt but his false teeth wouldn't give an advantage to either his legs or his breathing. I'd have no problem then with him running,Sab, but I'd have a major problem if he wanted to enter the ROPE CHEWING event.

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