posted Oct 5, 2008

a lot of the pompey fans dont get what went on with Judas as they werent following football when Judas moved down the road

it's interesting to see how people jump on the bandwagon when their local team gets into the premiership

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posted Oct 5, 2008

LukeySpur, I've got plenty of players I absolutely despise (most of them play for Cardiff ), and I will give them relentless attention when they find themsleves at The Liberty Stadium. however no matter what a player has "done" to your club it doesn't change the fact that racism and homophobia is illegal. Sorry. You are in the wrong here.

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posted Oct 5, 2008

el-nickpcr-io - I absolutely do not condone racism or homophobia, but can you explain to me how the chants aimed at Sol Campbell were either?

I'm not even particularly defending the chant, it's rubbish, but I just don't agree that it's racist or homophobic.

There is a different chant that gets sung, which I would agree could be considered homophobic, but its such a lame playground inuendo, in my opinion its hardly offensive.

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posted Oct 6, 2008

a lot of the pompey fans dont get what went on with Judas as they werent following football when Judas moved down the road

it's interesting to see how people jump on the bandwagon when their local team gets into the premiership

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DedleyLedley, the above is totally irrelevant to this general discussion. Maybe you're trying to change the subject. That's quite understandable.

I am aware of the circumstances under which Sol Campbell left Spurs. Anyone who hadn't been beforehand certainly is by now!

For your information I am 53 and have been a Pompey supporter for about 45 years. Unlike you I have watched my club playing in division 4! It makes our current situation all the more rewarding.

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posted Oct 6, 2008

LukeySpur, in that case I think we must be talking about different chants here, because the one's I've been told about (from Spurs supporters) are definately both.

Generally I'm all for giving footballers as much grief as humanly possible - the amount of money they earn for doing the best job in the world it's the least they can endure - but the things that make derogatory referances to someone's race or sexuality should obviously be off limits in a stadium as they are in the street, that's a no brainer really.

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posted Oct 6, 2008

Fair enough – maybe there are a couple I haven't heard, and I'm certainly not suggesting there are no Spurs fans who would sink to that level!

My main bone of contention is that the main song that seems to be in the spotlight and that was most audible, 'Sol Sol, wherever you may be...' to the tune of 'Lord of the Dance' – is being described as racist and homophobic, but I can't see how it is either?

None of the widely sung derogatory songs about him are, but the discussions/media reports seem to be suggesting otherwise, bunching in what I feel is legitimate and deserved barracking with a very small amount of mindless racism (that I, as a regular supporter, have never heard).

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posted Oct 15, 2008

I would call that song homophobic, although not Rascist. It is extremely offensive and I dont beleive has a place at a football ground.
Some of the chanting abuse I have seen of youtube from this game was not this song, that was neither rascist nor homophobic. Though obviously it was not shwoing everything that happened.
"Campbell, you're a c***. Campbell, campbell you're a c***" seemed to be the main chant. And whilst that is neither rascist or homophobic, it cant be pleasant for the many young children at the game. It is quite obviously inappropriate, but hardly deserving of a lifetime ban.
I think the most hostility ive seen towards a player was when Man Utd travelled to Benfica a few years back. Ronaldo was relentlessley targeted by the home fans, it was a cauldron of ill feeling, but it was whilsting and booing more than verbal abuse. It was very intimidating and all the more impressive because it lasted the whole game.
That is just as, if not more effective and much more appropriate for a football match.
I do think Hants police handled the affair badly, they should have been prepared to do something about it at the time.
"too many people" is not an excuse, if they wanted to take action they should have. It sends a much stronger message and surely is much easier in the long run for the authorities.

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posted Oct 15, 2008

oh for god sake, im sure sol said he would never leave spurs for arsenal, well if your gonna treat people like $*um your gonna get treated like $ *um, time to grow a backbone sol

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