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Why winning must come second to learning

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Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas

For a man with so many great memories from football, Sir Trevor Brooking has surprisingly little in the way of memorabilia on his office walls at the FA’s Soho Square HQ. But there are two items that do catch the eye.

The first is a tribute to his two spells as caretaker manager of his beloved West Ham – one defeat in 14 games – and the second is a framed newspaper article, “Brooking’s mission to find the English Fabregas”.

At the end of our interview with him - about Burton and the challenges facing the English game - we asked Brooking about his search for an Englishman who can play like Arsenal’s midfield matador. His response was so illuminating, so heart-felt, I am going to quote him verbatim.

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“Cesc Fabregas is a great example of a football brain, a thinker, a decision-maker. When you play for a good team and you’re in possession of the ball you probably have half a dozen choices where you play the ball,” he enthused.

“Fabregas always chooses the best or second-best option, where it’s going to hurt the opposition most.

“Sometimes the most hurtful ball is a simple five-yard pass, nothing flash or tricky. But sometimes a player doesn’t want to make that pass because it doesn’t look good.

“What we need is somebody who understands the choices and can instantly prioritise: that’s the one that is going to hurt.

“And if you end having to take the sixth choice, which is your square ball out of trouble, well, you might have to play one or two of those. But all too often the easy ball is the option we take, and if you take that option too often you won’t become the player you could.

“We should encourage youngsters to think about the risk option because if you are comfortable in your technique the risk option isn’t a risk. Arsenal knock the ball into people who are marked all the time but they weight it away from the defender and pace the pass the right way.

“I would never have received the ball at West Ham if my team-mates waited for me to get free. It’s not a problem as long as the person knocks the ball into you properly.

“It’s about having the confidence to knock the ball around because you know the people you’re playing with, how you’re going to knock the ball and how they shape up.

“You’re all on the same wavelength. At the moment we haven’t got enough on that wavelength.”

No, Trevor, we haven’t. Not unless 40-yard balls aimed at Peter Crouch/Emile Heskey/Alan Smith’s head count as a wavelength (although they certainly come with frequency).

For me, the key line in the FA director of development’s answer was the one about encouraging youngsters to “think about the risk option” which he qualified with the caveat “if you are comfortable in your technique the risk option isn’t a risk”.

That, of course, is the real secret to the pretty patterns that Fabregas orchestrates at the Emirates. He and his talented cohorts can instantly kill the ball (any ball), get their heads up and move it on accurately with any legal part of the footballing anatomy. And then move intelligently to find space to do it all over again.

They didn’t learn that at London Colney, although they clearly work on it there. They learned that in the park, playground, scrubland or back garden of their childhoods.

Those football fundamentals were then honed under the nurturing gaze of junior coaches in Belarus, Cameroon, Czech Republic, France, Holland, Ivory Coast, Senegal, Spain, Togo... almost anywhere apart from here, really.

Listening to Brooking talk about the urgent need for England to go back to the beginning in order to go forward reminded me of a comprehensive in east London that has made a name for itself as a production line of rugby union talent.

Kids arrive at that school, aged 11, from football backgrounds. They are broken into small groups, taught the basics and encouraged to play attacking rugby. Most importantly, they are banned from kicking the ball out of hand.

They are then thrown into a fiercely competitive playing schedule against most of the South East’s best (and mostly fee-paying) rugby schools.

The no-kicking, run-from-anywhere approach is not relaxed until the fourth year, by which time the early massacres (not helped by the almost suicidal refusal to kick) have usually become small defeats.

The best opponents on the playing schedule often keep their noses in front for the next year or two. But by the time those same players progress to their school’s first team things have turned drastically around.

Armed with superb handling skills, instinctive flair and a philosophy of relentless attack, the comprehensive boys wipe the floor with their classically coached rivals.

I know this because I was there. I don’t mention it to brag (I was a very small cog in the machine) or out of any out-dated notion of “class war”. I mention it because English football needs to do something very similar, and soon.

That school, Campion, became the first state school to win the prestigious Daily Mail Cup in 2001 (and nearly won it again a year later) and they have produced two full internationals, one Lion and at least half a dozen other professionals. Ten of the current U16 team are on the books of Guinness Premiership clubs.

Brooking, and many others who realise what is happening at the grass roots, know that the vast majority of our footballers just have not been taught the basics properly.

That is why they struggle to find first-team opportunities in the global village teams that now populate “our” Premier League, which is fast becoming as relevant to English football as Wimbledon is to English tennis. It is also why the England national team will never match the accomplishments of “English” club sides.

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Why aren’t our footballers taught the basics properly? Well, here it’s a case of our greatest strength – our will to win – being our greatest weakness too.

To return to our rugby example, Campion’s kids were told winning didn’t matter for those first few years. Learn the game, you’ll get them later. The entire programme worked towards the same goal and with the same philosophy.

The win-at-all-costs mentality in English football costs football in so many different ways. The best-paid coaching jobs exist at the top of the pyramid. How do you get there? You win. How do you win? You play winning football.

I don’t know if you’ve ever watched young kids playing winning football. It isn’t pretty. The best player is usually the biggest player and the game often hinges on which keeper can kick his goal kicks further. Things don’t get much better when these kids take their kick-and-rush grounding to teenage football.

I haven’t got all the answers, and if I did I certainly couldn't outline them all here, but I am going to suggest that English football listens to Brooking, takes the intensity (and that means you too, mum and dad) out of kids' football, focuses on building blocks as opposed to medals and invests a bit of money on getting the best coaches working at the level where they will have the most impact.

Let Fabio worry about 2010. I think it’s time the rest of us took a slightly longer-term view.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

What academies?

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Steve Bruce is not in a position to comment as his teams don't play anything that resembles football in the first place. Its more like skyball, airball, or strain your neck as the ball flys overhead ball. Anyway how does he know what every kid in the country is up to, its a very shortsighted view.

Have a look at this English kid on youtube and thank your lucky stars that there are some innovative people in this country who are trying to change the way we play football. Bare in mind he is only 10 years old (plays for villa academy now)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nm1c0BrguY

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posted Jan 25, 2008

What Bruce is saying doesn't make sense about there being too many distractions in England. I live in Canada, and we produce alot of quality ice hockey players, year in and year out, we produce amazingly talented hockey players. England has double our population...You should be producing players
left right an center with your population.
There are the same distractions in Italy, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, etc...
What Bruce didn't say was, the Premiership is the biggest league in the World now, and it's obvious that young English kids will miss out if you have players from the world over coming to play in your league.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

As a youth coach, there are a number of issues as I see it:
1. No 'joined-up' coaching approach. What I coach is different to what schools coach and, for the small %age that get to pro clubs youth dev schemes etc, it differs again. If the football authorities REALLY want to change things, there needs to be a unified coaching system across England and a re-think of the youth & school playing structures to support development through less competition. I believe we play too much competetive football from too early in player's careers; this leads to talented players loosing interest as they hit their teens and players that have been on the sidelines suddenly being drafted in. That in turn results in issues with teamwork, reading the game, decision-making, etc at a key stage in their development. They may be able to control the ball, pass it well, etc but they haven't yet learned how to play an 11-a-side game. Mini-soccer & futsal do help with fundamental skills so maybe a step to 9-a-side teams on pitches marked-out like 11-a-side but at two-thirds the size for two seasons may be a beneficial step.
2. Grassroots coaches are largely left to develop themselves, their styles & drills. The MacDonalds intiative & coaching qualifications are helping bring more coaches in to the game but I still have to buy my reference material, develop coaching sessions toward a "program" for each team, etc and fit in my day job & own family as well. One possible solution is to start at the top; pro clubs junior pros could act as mentors for youth clubs & schools as part of their own development toward coaching badges at an early age. This allows them to bring-in coaching methods & directions the pro clubs are using and even act as scouts to help bring the more talented players into the pro club's schemes. It also gives them an opportunity to stay in the game if they don't make it to full pro as they have a wealth of coaching experience and means they have an appreciation of how lucky they are if they do make it.
3. Following on from 2, the behaviour of senior players on TV is setting a very poor example. Too often, I hear about & see youth players & parents arguing with match officials, each other & encouraging a "win at all costs" mentality that I feel is the most damaging issue in the youth game. This all stems from what they see in the media and leads to a discouraging experience for the majority. I still can't see the logic in the FA trying to change this at grassroots level when the problem is mainly generated from the top down.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Bruce's comments are misguided at best and foolish at worst.

Take Aston Villa and Manchester City for example. those two teams alone can field a very good quality England side entirely from Academy Graduates. With the Premiership littered with players from these academies, surely they are proof that academy systems are working in some cases.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

The Canadian Ice Hockey comparison is nonsensical.

English players are as good now as they ever were. The problem is that the rest of the world has caught up.

Football is a global game, encouraging players from all areas of the world, thus increasing depth of quality. Ice Hockey is a niche sport in world terms so generally a stagnation/drop of quality in Canada/USA would not be noticed as much because there is a lack of any competition to compare them with. even in that respect though consider the vast increase of European players being drafted in the first few rounds to the NHL over the number from 25 years ago, you will see that the rest of the world IS catching Canada in Hockey in the same way, it is just quite limited because outside of Sweden, Finland, Czech, Slovak and Russia there are few nations outside North America with which to compete.

The comparisons you make with the same distractions in "Italy, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina" is a valid one (although Brazil & Argentina have in no way as much of them), however if you look at the influx of players it is NOT from these countries that they come. Also Englands position relative to these countries has remained fairly constant since the 1930's, it is the emerging nations catching up with that group that is causing England the problems.

The whole English kids missing out thing is a fallacy of the greatet proportions. The ones who will miss out ar the ones who used to make up the numbers in the 1980's. We will not be missing out on the stars, the best players, the Charltons, Edwards, Gascoignes, Shearers, Owens and Rooney's will still and will always make it through.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Steve Bruce hasn't got a clue.When Brian Eastwick was at B'Ham he was trying to provide footballers from the acadamy.Steve Bruce informed him that he wanted big strong lads coming through.Brian of course resigned.He's now on the FA staff.
Small countries like Holland continually provide world class players because they believe that natural talent should be allowed to flourish.They don't impose rigid tactics on young players.
The young footballers are here but unless you have the right people in the coaching positions we will never get there.Of course you will always get the odd one that manages to break through the ''system''but not on a regular basis.

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posted Jan 25, 2008

Bruce comments are rubbish, look at my team Boro, where does the think we got Downing, Lee Cattermole, Adam Johnson, Andrew Taylor, David Wheater to name but a few, other younger players have come in this season and not let the team down.

These things take time, ours was set up in the mid 90s by Robbo.

I say keep up the good work Dave Parnaby....

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posted Feb 18, 2008

I totally agree.

What I do not understand is - if the FA have all this spare money to spend why are they not employing lots of coaches to teach these basic skills in every junior and secondary school in the country.

Professional Football Clubs are not interested in developing good British players - they and their supporters just want their team to be succesful ?

The answer is simple - concentrate on schools soccer and leave the clubs to their own selfish goals ?

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posted Apr 1, 2008

When I used to play when I were little about 9 , I once got took off for a whole tournament for a simple pass back to the goal keeper instead of hoofing it as hard as I could , I also rarley played because i passed to people in space instaed of too the striker that the all team where based on.

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