posted Nov 19, 2007

obviously there is some absolute drivel in this thread - but my favourite is:
"France were the better team in both games....it's just that the gods of football weren't with them in those 2 games"
itachi22, i thought you were a WUM - obviously you are just someone with a very weak grip on reality and a lot of dribble down the front of his shirt!

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posted Nov 19, 2007

I dont know what scottish supporters had in their eyes when they were watching the french games. I am not saying you did not deserve to win. You played with what you had and won and well done for that. But dont talk complete nonsense by saying you were the better team, unless you wanna be those irratating people who say the score is the only thing that matters and thats that.
Actually, the fact that we are a better team than scotland meant we beat italy, did not lose to georgia and thats why we deserve to be htrough, on top of the fact we played way more entertaining football than you guys in both our encounters

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posted Nov 19, 2007

Anyway still an impressive display against italy

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posted Nov 19, 2007

There is a lot of talk about Italy having a goal wrongly disallowed, and the Scottish goal being offside. But the fact is, Scotland had Italy on the ropes for a good deal of the second half, and a draw would have been the most just outcome. Which leaves only the one question-mark: concering the appalling, amateurish, and downright suspicious free-kick decision at the end. With the video replay, enough for a FIFA enquiry, I'd say....

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posted Nov 19, 2007

I'm gutted that Italy somehow beat us on saturday.. In reference to a previous comment, i don't think a draw was the fair result. I feel we deserved the win. We had several clear-cut chances, our goal was not offside if you check the rules and the stone wall penalty, plus the inexplicable decision in the dying minutes, more than account for the fact they had a seemingly legitimate goal disallowed.
However, Italy go through and good luck to them. I also hope England qualify because i bet Beckham to get to 100 caps haha.

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posted Nov 19, 2007

I was at the game on saturday, an italian living in England. I'd like to say to all the Scottish people that they were absolutely brilliant, I've never experienced such an atmosphere in my life. Great support and sporting at the same time, something the English will never learn to be.
As for the game, it was a great performance by the scots in the second half and i would have settled for a draw (we wanted the French OUT!) but if you look at the game over the whole 90 minutes we probably just deserved to win. Bad decisions were made against both teams - that's football. Don't start talking about conspiracies because we believe UEFA is against us too, which country doesn't?
Good luck to all the teams that qualify for euro 2008, may the best team win!

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posted Nov 19, 2007

'we played way more entertaining football than you guys in both our encounters'

I agree - it was very entertaining watching you lose

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posted Nov 20, 2007

To claim Scotland was robbed is a redicolous and ignorant statement.
Open your eyes: the free kick decision was as wrong as totally irrelevant to the final table.
Did you forget Italy and France have to play their last game tomorrow?
Scotland should have done better in Georgia and didn't deserve to take the 3 points they had to take vs Italy. End of.
Scotland was good but not good enough.
Scotland was unlucky, not robbed.

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posted Nov 20, 2007

To onlyinter: I think, at least I hope, that by now most people accept that to claim Scotland were 'robbed' is ridiculous. They were, ultimately, outclassed by a better side. I think the real debate regards the issue of official incompetence at professional international level. And I am sick of hearing comments comparing the final freekick debacle with some earlier close-calls over the goals. The issue is not the result, which I believe was just, it is the fact that a ref at that level can make a decision like that, five yards from the break of play, backed up by assistants, and not be asked to publicly explain himself. If a player severely misbehaves, he is fined; if he proves incompetent he is dropped from the side...but there do not seem to be any proportional enquiries about such errors from the officials...

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posted Nov 22, 2007

you're all right, the italian goal was not offside, but it was a handball. there is no way that both a referee and a linesman could both think that the appalling attack on alan hutton was a free kick to italy, not even the most biased italian could claim that, so either one of them has made a mistake and the otehr is weak and didn't want to contridict him, or they have been told by somebody to let italy win, be it uefa who want the commercial benefits from italy and france, or the italians. lets be honest, with what's happened in their game recently, thats not impossible. i speak for most scots by saying we wouldn't be so angered if the referee held up his hands and admitted his mistake

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