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Football alienating fans says Sutcliffe

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What do you make of the latest comments by sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe on the relationship football currently has with the supporters?

Sutcliffe has condemned Chelsea captain John Terry's £150,000 salary as "obscene" while criticising Manchester United's for increasing season-ticket prices by 13%

Sutcliffe believes the sky-high wages and ticket prices are alienating fans.

Now many of you may argue that it is a result of market forces - there is the demand for tickets so the prices increase.

But is that fair to the fan who has been going for the last 20 years, but suddenly finds themselves priced out?

Or do you not care about fair anymore - that't the price and if you can't afford it, hard luck.

Should more teams be taking the Bradford approach of reducing season ticket prices? I can't see the Premier League clubs going down that route, but it is a model lower league teams may be well advised to follow.

Whatever your thoughts on the salaries and season ticket prices, we want to know them...

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posted Nov 2, 2007

i h8 the fact theres so much money involved in football. some playes get all dis money and cba playing to their highest standards. john terry moaned bout the fact he wasnt the highest earning player in premiership so he threatend to leave, hes a big headed pile of s*^$. i think alot of payers are paid to much.

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posted Nov 2, 2007

comment by paulchelseafan
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i think everyone should stop moaning. terry didnt ask 4 130 k per week he was given a contract 4 that amount and hes not gonna turn it down is he. he is world class unlike carragher and all of liverpools defence. the same goes for man u. ferdinand is the worst player ive ever seen. arsenal have 2 world class centre backs just like chelsea do in terry and carvalho and they have alex who is gr8 as well. most of the people who have posted a comment know squat. FACT

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Wow, way to excaggerate. Worst defender you've ever seen eh? Best defensive record in the league, so far. Doesn't really add up, does it! Don't forget we Utd fans saw William Prunier!

The way you're talking about Terry having the money forced on him (it seems) you'd think he wasn;t paying an agent to negotiate on his behalf. Key word is 'negotiate'. Of course he's asking for as much as he can get. To be honest, I can't blame him because I would in his position... probably.

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posted Nov 2, 2007

We all saw what Terry's absence did to our title hopes last season. Players that important and influential deserve their wages.

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comment by tich53 (U10158665)

posted Nov 2, 2007

If there is so much money coming into football why don't clubs use it to the benefit of the fans by reducing ticket prices instead of paying ever more ludicrous wages to players?

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posted Nov 2, 2007

You cant blame JT for being on 150K per week, although I agree with the sports minister, it is an obscene amout of money to pay a football player (or any sportsman IMO).

600 thousand quid a month... how on earth can anyone justify that salary?

Gordon Taylor supports it, unbelievable.

Avram Grant supports it, well he would wouldnt he... but Chelsea are 250 million pounds in the red, how can any company that much in debt defend paying such ludicrous amounts of money to its employees.

This situation is not sustainable, its only because their Russian billionaire is so obscenely rich that chelsea havent gone bankrupt.

They are living in cloud cuckoo land right now but change is inevitable... where will they be in 5 years time when Abramovich has got bored and moved on?


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comment by stev666 (U6790938)

posted Nov 3, 2007

Its a difficult question to answer without being hypocritical really. Do I think footballers get paid to much hell yeah, would I turn down that much money for doing the same job hell no, but I would still know inside that im getting paid far too much.

So its easy to critisize, but if the shoe was on the other foot there isnt many that would turn it down, I suspect Mr Sutcliffe wouldnt mind a footballer equivalent salary either.

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comment by gtaak1 (U3997541)

posted Nov 3, 2007

In the old days,stars like Milburn & Matthews who brought fame to British football were paid salaries in line with hard working people.Its just that things have now got completely out of line,there is money for sport & entertainment but little for health etc The clubs & sponsors who seem to have money to throw around,need to be taxed more!

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posted Nov 3, 2007

the problems stems from taylor the p.f.a.leader, allowing agents in to negociate players wages. the unions are supposed to look after its members,we should not worry about what j terry and other players recieve for giving us enjoyment,the agony and the ecstacy of football.all british players contribute to paye as you earn. how many low life agents do you see on "paye"there is millions getting taken out of the game by these leaches.taylor should resign or keep his mouth shut because the amount of illegal work permits given out to no europeon players is a farce,where are the p.f.a.? who should be protecting the jobs of young players in this country.as regards to the goverment minister going on about wages,what about there expense's and tax free loans to buy second house's and sell them on for a profit and horredous pension gains,no i think both taylor and want to get there own seedy acts together. concentrate on the olympic threre's agold mine out there.

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posted Nov 3, 2007

The only thing that's obscene is the fact that Gerry Sutcliffe is one of the many MP's with their snout in the public trough taking expenses of over £136,000 per year -with no explanation necessary!

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posted Nov 4, 2007

I did write a comment on this article but it seems to have got lost in the ether. That dissappoints me because I felt I brought a valid point which deserved consideration. On reflection and after reviewing the comments printed I feel compelled to comment once again. A lot of people seem not to be aware how lucky they are to be living in this country. Were you to have been born in Yugoslavia,Ruanda,cambodia, Uganda..I could go on but I trust you get my drift and if you don't you should get out more. As I was saying,were you to have been born in a country where you couldn't rely on natural justice,a guarentee that you wouldn't be allowed to starve to death or mob rule could threaten your person or that of a loved one without the authorities lifting a hand to defend your human rights,then you would appreciate what we,living in this country,have to be thankfull for. This security and these benefits didn't just happen,they were fought for by our ancestors,many of whom suffered for there fight against injustice when people living in this country didn't enjoy the rights and protection from persecution that we now take for granted. So this situation didn't just happen nor will it remain without vigillance and selfless behaviour and attitude by as many of us who care enough to put the general good before selfish self interest. So who am I to talk like this? a politician,a parson,a social worker,a general do gooder? None of the aforementioned,I have never voted and have done many things I am not proud of but before I reach my dotage I have sufficient care for for the well-being of my children and their children to tell them and you, "Don't take this privilidged position for granted,but fight mans natural inclination to selfishness and greed to ensure society retains a feeling of care for their fellow being which requires us to speak out against injustice. I'm sorry for my long boring preamble and hope there are one or two people still with me and here is my point. The money that is being paid to Footballers is morally indefensible,does nothing for the good of the society I have highlighted earlier and it is an act of gross selfishisness to fight for or accept such an amount. It is synonimous with human nature that the vast majority of people supporting these antisocial amounts are football agents,PFA bosses and people with a vested interest in protecting the advantage they perceive themselves to have over their fellow man. We see huge amounts of money being paid in many sports,I see them all as contrary to the public good and even golf which unlike most team games ensures that all are fighting for the prize with the chance of winning being entirely in their own hands as against F1 or horseracing where the car or horse you are piloting will play a big part in determining your chance of success. In Football a player relies on their team and team-mates for success. Football is particularly anomulous because of the source of the money. Where an ex market-trader came by the money Abramovich has at his disposal seems a mystery and there are a couple more in that category with the Portsmouth owner and the Russian throwing money at Arsenal. But this is only part of the problem with football. The fact that the majority of the money comes from Sky who,due to their clever introduction of pay-per-view, have their hand in the pocket of the British working man and due to SKYs reliance on football for their existance, they are willing to pay any price for that privillidge knowing they can pass the cost on by raising the cost of subscribing. Therefore that the British working man is having to pay for something we used to receive free at the on off switch and the cost is high and rising,further complicates the question. To suggest that the consumer has it in his own hands to refuse to support his club or decline to subscribe to SKY is facile because human nature makes it very difficult to make such decisions and deprive ourselves of a pleasure,as the people who are trying to pursuade people to stop smoking are finding. If we wont give up something we want at the risk of killing ourselves we are hardly likely to act altruistically with no blatently obvious reward.

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